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Of course the US is going to do this and of course its in Anthropics best interest to comply. Right now China is flooding HuggingFace with models that will inevitably have this capability. Right now there are hundreds of models being hosted that have been deliberately processed to remove refusals and their safety training. Everyone who keeps up with this knows about it. HF knows about it. And it is pretty obvious that those open weight models will be deployed in intelligence and defense. It is certain that not just China, but many nations around the world with the capital to host a few powerful servers to run the top open weight models are going to use them for that capability.

The narrative on social media, this site included, is to portray the closed western labs as the bad guys and the less capable labs releasing their distilled open weight models to the world as the good guys.

Right now a kid can go download an Abliterated version of a capable open weight model and they can go wild with it.

But let's worry about what the US DoD is doing or what the western AI companies absolutely dominating the market are doing because that's what drives engagement and clicks.


> But let's worry about what the US DoD is doing

They want Anthropic to enabling mass surveillance and autonomous attack systems with no human in the loop.

Hardly compares to a kid downloading a model to experiment with.


*To improve* mass surveillance and autonomous attack systems with no human in the loop. China and USA already had those kind of systems way before AI.

China is certainly lax, but the US doesn't allow autonomous ATTACK systems. For Attack systems it is always required that a human makes the judgement call when to attack.

Or least it didn't until the current regime.

The US does have autonomous defensive systems.

I could be wrong though, can you post your evidence? The closest I could find is loitering munitions.

Even so, a company shouldn't be forced to go against its ethics if those ethics help humans.


Drone pilots don't get any info about their target, certainly not enough to make a judgement call. If they object (or burn out) someone else is put in the chair.

People are conscripted, they put on the uniform and become legitimate targets? It might as well be a robot doing the shooting. Same difference.


It's not the same.

The pilot becomes responsible for those outcomes. For example indiscriminately killing civilians for example is a war crime. Its easier to get an AI to commit war crimes than humans.


Perhaps but if the difference is significant I don't know. Everything changes then we try stretch rhetoric from stabbing someone with a sword to hypersonic missiles? We might hold the pilot responsible if they erase a building but I'm far less comfortable blaming them. We know the targets are actually picked by computers using metadata. The difference gets increasingly vague.

> Right now a kid can go download an Abliterated version of a capable open weight model and they can go wild with it.

Is the reason to ban or block free open weight models that you're worried what kids will do with them?

I'd imagine the economic case to be made is that the Western AI companies will ultimately not be able to compete with free open weight models. Additionally, open weight models will help to spread the economic gains by not letting a few monopolies capture them behind regulatory red tape.

Finally, I'd say the geopolitics angle of why open weight models are better is that if the West controls the open source software that will power it will be able to reap the benefits that soft power brings with it.


I'm going to claim that the majority of those users are optimizing for cost and not correctness and therefore the quality of data collected from those sessions is questionable. If you're working on something of consequence, you're not using those platforms. If you're a tinkerer pinching pennies, sure.


This is a weird dichotomy and I don't agree with it. You don't need to have bags of money to burn to work on serious things. You also can value correctness if you're poor.


ChatGPT, Gemini and Claude are banned in China. Chinese model providers are getting absolutely massive amounts of very valuable user feedback from users in China.


Their models are specifically trained for their tools. For example the `apply_patch` tool. You would think it's just another file editing tool, but its unique diff format is trained into their models. It also works better than the generic file editing tools implemented in other clients. I can also confirm their compaction is best in class. I've imlemented my own client using their API and gpt-5.2 can work for hours and process millions of input tokens very effectively.


A reminder the insatiable appetite of the American consumer is a big part of what props up a lot of other economies.


Every consumer is insatiable. Americans have (had?) powerful money that allows them to push the limit.


The world wasn't globalized then. It's quite literally, an entire new world today. The collapse of the US will touch every corner of the world.


> The world wasn't globalized then

This may be recency bias. The current age just has more immediate, global communications. "The sun never sets on the British empire" had a literal meaning based on how globalized it was then. They even laid intercontinental undersea cables.


What makes you think the next generation models won't be explicitly trained to prevent this, or any other pitfall or best practice as the low hanging fruit fall one by one?


The author must have taken inspiration from Orbstack which is itself a MacOS app for managing containers, VMs and a local Kube cluster. The first image in the README shows they've selected the cluster Orbstack provisions as the one being managed.


I use orbstack but I wouldn’t say it was any inspiration for Luxury Yacht. I was inspired by https://infra.app which was my favorite app for managing k8s resources before it got abandoned.


Truth. It's a hard pill to swallow. But this is the reality. It's irrelevant if it has our approval or not.


SynthID can be easily circumvented. One of the top posts in a certain subreddit today relates to the topic for those willing to look.


Well there you go, anything can be circumvented because you can ask an AI to just recreate the image but by itself, and you've removed the watermark.


We have different definitions of sovereign state apparently.

"In his time in office, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has stolen two presidential elections, electoral monitors and human rights groups contend, while jailing critics and overseeing an economic collapse that caused eight million Venezuelans to emigrate, including to the U.S.

But in some ways, Maduro is more safely ensconced than ever, with most opposition leaders in exile and Venezuelans too fearful to protest as they once did.

The problem for those who see hope in the military rising up is that Maduro has surrounded himself with a fortress of lieutenants whose fortunes and future are tied to his, from Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino López to generals, admirals, colonels and captains throughout the armed forces."

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/venezuela-maduro-coup-tru...


What's that have to do with it being a sovereign state? By that standard, neither Russia nor China are sovereign states.

And it's not like the US gives a shit about democracy outside its borders. The CIA overthrew Jacobo Árbenz in the 50s, supported the military coup in Brazil in 1964, pinochet and Hugo Banzer in the 70s. This is normal behavior for the US in Latin America. It's nothing to do with concern for Venezuela's citizens.


There's really no benefit in arguing on the basis of the definition of sovereignty. There is no definition. It's a self-evident state: if you assert that you are sovereign, and you can back it up, then you're sovereign. That's it.


I am going to assume that if you were old enough at the time that you thought Iraq had WMD's?

How people can just read one article and think they know the world is fascinating to me.


Hilarious how this is coming from someone that just assumed a 20 year old belief of a person they don’t know


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