Seeing your comment being downvoted is the most American thing I've witnessed on the internet today
> What are some other well engineered long-lasting products?
How dare you not mention Nokia!?
Jokes aside, if you restrict it to "long-lasting" - Japanese woodworking, Toyota Hilux, Honda Super Cub... in fact a lot of post ww2 era Japanese manufacturing.
If you include high fault tolerance as well - a lot of USSR engineering is beautiful in this aspect. I recall they design a propeller with 8 blades because they expected 4 of them will crack in early stage of usage. Same apply to screw enclosures.
Here we go again... there's a rule that describe this situation where a measuring matrix becomes the standard, the said matrix is no longer indicative.
But please, I don't want to be pointing to a random bus outside my window to prove that I'm not a robot/deepfake...
The degrade of news article quality > the degrade of fact-checking journalism scrutiny > the degrade of written article quality > people rather watch live stream event than reading > degrade of live stream event trustworthiness because of deepfake...
What's next? Heavily scrutinised journal articles which runs check on videos with anti-deepfake AI-based algorithm?
Owns by the highest bidder, be it measured by monetary value or political power.
IEEE should have done this piece way earlier, not after BMWs heating seat already grabbed people's attention.
>If they want to opt out of data collection completely, they can ask Tesla to disable the vehicle’s connectivity altogether. However, this would mean losing features such as remote services, Internet radio, voice commands, and Web browser functionality, and even safety-related over-the-air updates.
Fairly cheap price to pay if they really allow a full opt-out though
I think any car company is toast, if it sells users' private data. Including Tesla. I really doubt any data is being sold.
Most companies do actually collect data for a very simple reason: they want to genuinely improve their products and services. (Although some companies, like Google, Samsung and Facebook collect it also to help other companies sell more crap to you.)
Please provide details if you have any evidence that Tesla (or any other automotive company) is selling users' data.
>I think any car company is toast, if it sells users' private data. Including Tesla. I really doubt any data is being sold.
Any car company whose parent owner has multi-billion dollar contracts with the US government is toast if it doesn't sell its data, at least to the NSA.
What about policy(ies) relating to providing data to law enforcement, and whether a warrant is required?
I know this is moving the goalposts from selling data - but I don't think folks concerned with data privacy are strictly and exclusively concerned about the sale of such data.
Warrants are easy to come by even in supposed democracies like the US or Germany. Alternatively, the US government has repeatedly shown it does not give a fuck about laws and simply compels providers to accept whatever they are doing (Room 614A), or outright hacks the company in question (e.g. Google got their datacenter fiber connections spliced).
Even if it's not sold, the car's behavior may expose some user data to external services - navigation systems enriching maps with local data (restaurants, gas stations, charger occupancy, parking spaces, hotels) may connect to services that allow an external entity to identify a car or the person driving it. I don't know Tesla's software enough to make any further observations, but the possibility exists.
For a brief time, Ford tried to rebrand as a quasi-electronics company in some circles. Ford has been on the record saying they would be in a position to create “customer experiences” and “ownership offers based on connected vehicle data.” It’s all a bit cryptic but you can look up the Team Upshift project.
Updates are rolled out over time by HQ, and there is no way to force an update for your car if you're stuck on a specific version but you keep hearing about a newer version that people are using (both of my Model 3's are on 2022.20.7, while there is a 2022.20.8 bugfix update as well as 2022.24.1 which adds features[0]).
Rolling out updates in this way provides a major advantage In terms of QA testing: they can start a new software update out on employee cars, then move to maybe a few thousand owners to get initial thoughts on the update and make sure an update works on multiple model years of cars with different hardware and module configurations (since they're constantly changing out parts to increase assembly efficiency and work through supply shortages). This is especially important given the update system in the car isn't limited to just the infotainment, pretty much every software system in the car can be updated during an OTA update, including the battery management system, ABS, safety systems[1], etc.
> Rolling out updates in this way provides a major advantage In terms of QA testing: they can start a new software update out on employee cars, then move to maybe a few thousand owners to get initial thoughts on the update
Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I believe in doing the QA before you ship the code. Especially for safety critical code. "Move fast and break things" was cute when it was just for some upstart entertainment company, but is straight up professional malpractice for any product that is expected to be reliable.
Lack of centralizing connectivity was actually a beneficial constraint for most contexts. If a car model's software is found to have a safety critical bug that needs fixing, the recall process of making cars go back to the dealer should be regarded as a small price compared to the gravity of the mistake.
The Tesla Model 3/y infotainment system that's often updated by over the air updates isn't "safety critical" code. You can drive the car without the infotainment system and screen even on. There is a completely separate system that goes through a much more rigorous process.
And Tesla has incredible reliability for how complex the software is (in my opinion). They actually fix bugs. I had weird issues with Bluetooth and the radio on my Honda that were never fixed the entire time I've owned the car.
I've seen newer Mustang Mach-Es and Volkswagen iD cars that have really severe issues in their UI.
The comment I responded to was talking about safety critical systems:
> This is especially important given the update system in the car isn't limited to just the infotainment, pretty much every software system in the car can be updated during an OTA update, including the battery management system, ABS, safety systems
Also, I'd say that even the entertainment system is still safety relevant. Arbitrarily changing the UI on something that is meant to be used while driving is a terrible idea. At the very least, whether and when those changes are applied should be under control of the owner and able to be rolled back. Surprises like needing to figure out how to turn on the defrost kill a driver's OODA loop.
Another piece of "Insight Porn" labelled as "No more insight porn", how ironic.
And when do people like the author start labelling any over-doing, over-indulging behaviour "porn"?
Should I expect in a few decades time that people binge-watching documentary will give birth to "doco-porn"?
Catchy marketing at its worst.
On the topic though, beneath whatever words he put on top it's an age-old idea that until you start doing something hands-on, it'll be hard to tell what you already know and what you don't.
The advice giving and taking is not a new concept, and data-driven is not going to change it. If one doesn't like handling slimy things, no matter how good a piece of cooking advice is - it's not going to help. Imagine capturing meat can be slimy in datasets.
It is indeed quite ironic. This article would have landed much better had it not tried to make a better version of the insight porn that it criticises so much. Just listing the problematic content would have been better.
The question is not How, but Why.
In the world of non-stop info/commerical bombardment, maybe it's great to have a few seconds of silence?
Also don't forget the entire idea could be a diminishing return - the better the technology, the shorter the time.
If Otis intentionally lengthening trip time so that they can feed more entertainment until a state-level regulation comes in place, I would start to suspect they've hired Zuckerberg.
I guess I don't need to mention the privacy concerns and consumer rights, considering this is HN.
p.s. the author never heard music in Britain's elevator because elevator = conveyor belt, the little box thing that carry people up and down a building? It's called a "lift"
(sorry I'll see myself out...)
Sorry but "a few seconds of silence" is the enemy. Likewise for air travel nowadays, as wi-fi colonizes that space. A moment to meditate ? There's gotta be a way to monetize it.
"Silence(TM) - Ask for it by name! Not available in stores."
> What are some other well engineered long-lasting products?
How dare you not mention Nokia!?
Jokes aside, if you restrict it to "long-lasting" - Japanese woodworking, Toyota Hilux, Honda Super Cub... in fact a lot of post ww2 era Japanese manufacturing.
If you include high fault tolerance as well - a lot of USSR engineering is beautiful in this aspect. I recall they design a propeller with 8 blades because they expected 4 of them will crack in early stage of usage. Same apply to screw enclosures.