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Castles made of Sand


How can you not care for people working in the top tech while probably not even knowing half of what you have learned?

Would you say the same thing when you would be another field of work; like medicine maybe?


I focus on myself. Am I better than I was yesterday? Three years ago? Good. Keep going.

We're not like doctors. There is no capital-P professional guild setting the bar for practitioners of software engineering. There are engineering guilds that recognize software development as a discipline that will accredit you if you meet their requirements and pay their dues. However it's often not mandatory for you to be accredited in order to practice software engineering. And it's not required that a company developing software employ a professional software engineer in order to conduct business. So hardly anyone seeks out accreditation.

In a free market you get companies like Google that need a large volume of people trained with vocational skills to churn out code in the various frameworks and tools. Doesn't bother me any.

I like to work on problems that are interesting and make the world a better place. You can't always do that at a Google or Netflix.


Curious, and being serious here, what problems are you working on and how do you make the world a better place?


At my present day job I make software for factories. My team and I make people's jobs safer, keep machines running longer, and have improved food/drug manufacturing safety operations.

On my evenings and weekends, when I'm not unwinding, I'm presently working on Haskell libraries for type-directed data migrations, extending the community fork of Lean to add FFI support, and working on a course in abstract algebra.

Making the world a better place is pretty easy and can start with small things. I like visiting some of our customer factories and meeting the people who use our software. It makes my day to hear their feedback and know that it's making a difference for them.


I mean - honestly - most people that work in computers don't work for FAANG, or even a FAANG adjacent corporation. I like job stability (and with my health issues, job stability and good health benefits are always at the top of my priority list), so most of FAANG (and many start-ups) are lower on my priority list; I know I could almost double my income moving out of higher ed. but that comes with different costs and benefits.

You're treating this like monetary value is the only motivator for people. Let's pick on medicine; a general practitioner consistently makes less money, but they tend to have greater, more regular contact with their patients, which may be a strong motivator for them over becoming a surgeon for more money. And to boot, the surgeon is more specialized, so they have simultaneously learned less than the Gen Practitioner, but more specificity within their selected specialization. This is similar to boot camps, that provide a very narrow skillset that give someone the best chance of getting hired into that very narrow position type; where as, someone like the OP and I are happy with our broader knowledge that gives us different benefits.

And probably most importantly, what do I care that someone else has optimized their job path for monetary gain. I could assign 5 minute increments to worrying about each person and still not make it through all the idiots that are employed in the tech industry in my lifetime.


I'm not the OP but generally I don't attach that much importance to my job. I'm very lucky to (both now and historically) have great colleagues working on interesting problems.

But in terms of 'jealousy' for those who earn more? Quite the opposite. There are plenty of companies I'd rather top myself than work for.


It's not a competition. If you can do what you enjoy then that can be very rewarding in and of itself.


Always remember that theese are the people in charge of running the internet.

I really hope he didn't have too much say in the important things at Let's Encrypt. Because statements like this really damage the little trust I have left in companys.


So you use JavaScript libraries to avoid writing JavaScript to use a JavaScript browser API?


That's right. By including the Intercooler.js library, we don't need to write custom JS when developing features in our web app. We can take full advantage of JS APIs like AJAX and EventSource by only adding declarative HTML attributes to our markup.


That's exactly right.

It's also pretty hilarious.

I said a while ago: "The irony is that I had to learn a lot of javascript in order to never have to write any javascript again."


Please forgive my ignorance but the specs on this are just average in my opinion. Why would I choose this over a custom build pc with almost the same, if not better, components?

My experience with all apple products at work has been quite bad so I might be a little biased.


Try to build a custom PC with equivalent specs, paying attention to the expansion options and I/O characteristics, and you'll end up with similar pricing. People who need professional workstations are in a different market than gamers or almost all software developers — the question is kind of like asking why anyone buys a semi-truck when your pickup can beat it off the light.


If you don't get why you'd want to buy this, then it's not aimed at you.

"Why would I pay AWS to host a Virtual Machine for me when I can get a physical host on Hetzner for the same price, if not less, that's 5x better?" -- the point has truly been missed.


And what is the point then? I'm serious since i read this "if you do not understand why then it isn't for you" but without any explanations about what isn't understood.


Think about other products that exist in the wild. Have you ever looked at something on a shelf, or in someone's hand, come to an understanding of what it is and what it does and then thought, "That's stupid. I don't need that. There are better options!" The thing is the person using it loves it , and it's solving a very specific problem for them, a problem you don't have.

It's the same thing here: you don't respect the product so you don't understand who would use it, so you don't buy it. That's fair enough.

But the MacPro is designed for a niche audience who are happy with the hardware, implementation, support, and so on. The things they're doing with this product are not things you're doing, so you don't understand their pain points.


This doesn't answer the question though. The question was "why would you buy this over a pc with the same specs?" and you answered essentially with "if you do not already know this then you cannot know this".

How would one gain that knowledge in the first place? We aren't born with the knowledge of why one would buy this machine over another.

We gain that knowledge based on specifics of the two machines. So the question is simple: what specifically makes the new Mac Pro a more desirable purchase option for someone than a PC with similar specifications?


You'll never beat a custom built PC on price/performance.


I have zero interest in building my own PC, or dealing with fragmented and terrible support when issues crop up, or using anything other than macOS. And definitely not to save a few bucks. You clearly are different in your values and priorities. That’s what “if you don’t understand, you’re not the target market” means.


The parent didn't mention anything about saving money, or building a machine from parts. You can order a custom build from any number of OEMs and have a same-day on-site service warranty. The point about building a technically superior machine stands. I use Apple for their laptops because the OS is superior on a touch pad. But really all their desktop machines are joke hardware. The Mac Pro is just a bigger more expensive joke than the others.

Intel is old news on HEDT ever since Threadripper became a thing. The final nail in that coffin will be the November release of the third-gen Ryzen Threadripper making that 28 core Xeon obsolete. I'm curious if the new Mac Pro will even be available by then.

AMD builds admirable video cards, but the Radeon VII is inferior for professional work compared to Nvidia cards and CUDA.

MacOS is superior to Windows but inferior to Linux. A lot of people with HEDT builds are in Linux (myself included). I appreciate being able to do some of my favorite Unixy stuff in MacOS at a fraction of the speed, but for high end use it's still a joke.


Thank you. That is pretty much what I had in mind when asking why to buy the Mac.

I get that Apple has some products that are really good, but for a professional environment I am still unsure if I would really recommend to buy them.


Reading the comments here kind of makes me wonder why no negative feedback is allowed? I mean this fits exactly into the binary world of Greta, but I would have expected so much more from this website filled with smart people.


Any moderated online discussion is going to attract extremes. The extremes silent disent.


Great idea by the way. Of course skipping commercials in any kind of media was always a thing to do and was not invented for web ads only.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_skipping


"And they're growing more self aware any minute."


But I won't subscribe to all the other streaming services just to watch one show on each one. Netflix isgreat because I can watch everything in one place. When this changes, pirating shows will be more comfortable again.


Does anyone have some example images taken with this kind of lens? I'm curious what the result would look like.


This blog post has some sample photos with a collapsible 5cm f2 summicron that looks like it's from the same era:

https://talktog.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/lens-review-leica-l...


I have some lenses (Nikon 35mm and Pentax 55mm) that are identical other than having single-coating (thoriated glass) or multi-coating (non-thoriated glass).

The multi-coated versions all have a little bit more saturated colors. Other than that I have never noticed a difference.


I have a Nikkor 35mm f/1.4 with significant yellowing from the thoriated element. Apart from the yellow cast there’s no effect:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gerikson/tags/35mmf14n/


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