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Not necessarily. We've been running Intel SSDs in productions at Stack Exchange for 4+ years, and just recently had our first 2.5" drive die.

That said, most of the drives in this article are consumer drives. The problem with consumer drives is that they don't have capacitors. And since your writes are cached by the drive before they go to the NAND, if you lose power all of your drives will be corrupted in the exact same way at the exact same time.

If you don't care about the data, go ahead and use them. If you do pay the extra for Enterprise drives. They really aren't _that_ much more expensive these days.


Interesting. Do you have more info on what you mean by "Not necessarily?" From what I've seen during reliability studies on SSDs, they have a fairly tight failure curve. This is very dissimilar from hard disks where there's much more variance from drive to drive.

I'm genuinely interested.


Nothing that would pass deep scrutiny. Just our experience running SSDs in almost every server at Stack. We've only had one mass failure of drives. That was when 5/8 Samsung drives died around the same time in our packet capture box. The remaining 3 are still alive, although we don't really use them.

We have only had two Intel drives die on us. I'm interested (well academically, not professionally) if they will die at the same time or keep dropping off one at a time.

We tend to retire the machines or the drives in them before they fail.


> How many ops employees would you need for a fleet of 500 servers in a datacenter? We managed it all with 4 people with AWS.

I'd say our goal is to keep growing and serving more content without _needing_ 500 servers in a data center. We are doing pretty well at that so far. We'll see what happens in the future.


They are nice, we honestly haven't had to do much with them after we got them setup since they are VM hosts.

The most annoying part was that the Force10 OS that the IOA's run is slightly annoying to work with when you are used to working on Cisco gear. I'd almost rather people stopped doing "it's close to Cicso" and did their own thing because the connotative dissonance is jarring when something is close but not quite what you expect.


We've got 2 M1000e's, but they're slowly being retired and TBH they're in a 'do-less not do-more' situation (mostly!), so I haven't honestly had much experience past run-of-the-mill blade config, so that particular issue happily hasn't really bitten me :)

But thanks (to both you and Nick) for responding, the FX2s look interesting enough that I might have to see about an eval unit :)


It took about 20 minutes to notice and fix. The Twitter alerting system let us know really quick.


That's nothing: https://gigaom.com/2012/10/31/how-good-prep-and-a-bucket-bri...

We where hosted at that Peer 1 facility during Sandy. Also, if the water makes it up to the 16th floor it's time to give up anyway ... no one will care at that point :-D


yea we got hit hard by it too (33 whitehall), thats why we went shopping for a second location in jersey. we wound up in newark at 165halsey.


We generally pick a hashtag on twitter and do it that way. We've also done Hangouts On Air for non-hardware in the past which have been pretty fun as well.


If by fun you mean a 4 hour maintenance window turning into 8 hours ending well after midnight :-P


I never claimed to be sane


We take a lot of pride in how much we get out of each piece of hardware. You don't need to have 1000 servers to run a large site, just the mindset of performance first.


If you look at their site, it's all college rot gut, and well liquor level stuff. It's the brands that you go and get a giant 1 Gallon handle for 10$. Which makes sense given their business model.

This is the stuff you'll get at a corner bar when you say "I don't care." When they ask what kind of vodka you want.


It looks like it would be illegal to market grain ethanol as rum in the US, no matter how downmarket

http://www.robsrum.com/RumBasics.html

I think the grandparent isn't right.


Skyy Vodka isn't well-level.

And about three seconds' thought would tell you: "GeorgeBeech, no idiot running a 'premium' liquor brand would allow their product to be featured on a bulk purveyor of flavored methanol products manufacturer website."

Brand appearances are tightly controlled. The message is as much about what you want to be known as what you want to be concealed.


Skyy Vodka was featured on the Frank-Lin web site back in 2006.[1] "One of our current contract customers is Skyy Vodka. We are very proud to mention that we bottled the first bottle of Skyy for Maurice Kambar and have bottled every single bottle for him since." That was in 2006. Campari later bought out Skyy, and moved production to a Campari facility.

It's all ethanol, water, and flavoring. Deal with it.

Coca-Cola's "Dasani" is tap water that's been run through a deionizing plant and had some minerals added.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20060318162306/http://www.frank-...


Yeah, I'm supporting your point

Here's a list of Frank-Lin products: http://sourmashed.com/american-whiskey-database/frank-lin-di...


You're welcome to tell me which of the following brands you consider "college rot gut". Though it's all just flavoured ethanol:

http://sourmashed.com/american-whiskey-database/frank-lin-di...

A R Morrow Brandy, Lejon Brandy, Potter’s Finest Brandy, Montanac Brandy, Maraska Brandy, Busnel Calvados, Menorval Calvados, 1st Cru Collection Cognac, Francious Voyer Napoleon Cognac, Maison Prunier Cognac, Marthe Sepia Cognac, Menuet Cognac, Aubade & Cie. Cognac, Francois De Lyon Cognac, Jules Domet Cognac, Maison Prunier Cognac, Café Del Amor, Curacao Liqueur, Destinee Liqueur, Gran Citron, Grand Marquette, Holly Toddy, Jules Domet Orange Liqueur, Kona Gold Coffee Liqueur, Maraska Cherry & Pear Liqueurs, Potter’s, Potter’s Long Island Iced Tea, Potter’s Sour Splash, Vice Rei – Portugal Passion Fruit, Duggan’s Irish Cream, Barrett’s London Dry Gin, Bellringer (England) Gin, Cossack Gin, Martini London Dry Gin, Potter’s London Dry Gin, Classik Grappa, Jules Domet Grand Orange, Agwa, Arak Razzouk – Anise Liqueur, Par-D-Schatz, Ramazotti, Arak Razzouk, Don Antonio Aguilar, Diamond Head Rum, Havana Bay Rum, Moraga Cay Rum, Potter’s Specialty Rums, Potter’s West Indies Rum, Prichard’s Rum, Tanduay Rum, Glenalmond Scotch, Glen Ranoch Scotch, Muirheads Speyside Scotch, Angus Dundee Scotch, Tambowie Scotch, Blackburn’s Scotch, Duggan’s Dew Scotch, Lloyd & Haig Scotch, Potter’s Scotch, Maraska Kosher, Subovorska, Defrost Schnapps, El Tirador Tequila, Arette 100% agave Tequila, Baja Tequila, Baja Tequila Liqueur, Don Diego Santa Tequila, Potter’s Tequila, Puente Grande Tequila, Puerto Vallarta Tequila, Quito Tequila, Señor Rio Tequila, Sol De Mexico Tequila, Baronoff Vodka, Beyond Vodka, Charodei-Russia Vodka, Cossack Vodka, Crown Czar Vodka, Crown Superior Vodka, Ed Hardy-France Vodka, Haamonii-Schochu Vodka, Maggy-Russsia Vodka, Monnema Vodka, Monopolowa Vodka, Monopolowa-Austria Vodka, Potter’s Vodka, Purity-Sweden Vodka, Royal Czar Vodka, Spirit of Santa-Finland Vodka, Tamiroff Vodka, Vampyre-Transylvania Vodka, White Wolf Vodka, Bourbon Age – Ky Bourbon, Bourbon Club Bourbon, Buck Bourbon Bourbon, Clyde Mays Conecuh Ridge Whisky Bourbon, Joshua Brook Bourbon, Potter’s Bourbon, Wathen’s Bourbon, Barret’s Blended Whiskey, Glenwood Blended Whiskey, Potter’s Blended Whiskey, 8 Seconds Canadian Whisky, C.E.O. Canadian Whisky, Campbell & Cooper Canadian Whisky, Canadian Crown Canadian Whisky, Potter’s Crown Canadian Whisky.


How can they legally sell Canadian Whisky given it's a protected geographic designation under NAFTA?

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_whisky#Regulations and NAFTA Chapter 3, Annex 313: Distinctive Products)


Same deal with the "Scotch" and "Cognac" appellations. They're protected by law.

The thing to remember is, there's plenty of completely crappy Scotch and, presumably, Cognac. It's not mixed from pure ethanol - the countries who control the use of the appellations have laws about how the stuff can be made - but every drink industry has its bottom of the barrel stuff that it needs to get rid of somehow...


As far as I know "Scotch" and "Cognac" are only protected in the EU.

In any case, the parent claims that Frank-Lin Distillers just uses pure ethanol to produce all of it's products. Given things such as bourbon permit the addition of "neutral grain spirits" those products make sense. I was curious about the Canadian whiskey case since it is explicitly one of the few protected spirits in law and appears to at least require production and aging in Canada.


> As far as I know "Scotch" and "Cognac" are only protected in the EU.

That's an interesting thought. I'm aware of France fighting misuse of its wine appellations overseas but I don't know about the rest. They're pretty aggressive, though.

> In any case, the parent claims that Frank-Lin Distillers just uses pure ethanol to produce all of it's products. Given things such as bourbon permit the addition of "neutral grain spirits" those products make sense.

The "bourbon" label is protected in the United States: you need to use certain ingredients to make bourbon, or rye, or tennessee whiskey, or whatever. With bourbon, for example, an ethanol distilled all the way up to azeotrope wouldn't be legal in the United States. The limit you can use is 160 proof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_whiskey#Legal_requireme...

In the parent's defense, "flavored ethanol" isn't a bad way of describing a lot of vodkas. Some of the better vodkas come out of industrial continuous distillation. The parent is just overstating his case, and in a small way, missing the point. A lot of that cheap stuff would be BETTER if it were pure ethanol and an additive...


The 2960 series has 8 and 24 port models, that are fully managed switchs - VLANs, management, anything that you can do in the IP Base IOS.

See the bottom of this page for models the 24 and 8 switches are what you are looking for. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/switches/catalyst-2960...

Also, if you want a cheaper options the Dell Basic switches are fully managed and have just about any feature you could want.

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/powerconnect-2800/fs

Unless I'm missing something that you are looking for.


Got a used 24 port 2960 on ebay 10/100 ports for ~$65. Maybe doesn't mean the "open" portion, but the rest is definitely satisfied. Also, bought it 5~ years ago and still runs beautifully (Noisy fan though).


That is exactly how I have my desk setup. Monitors Facing the wall. Me facing the door. The office feels a bit smaller, but I'd rather not have my back/side to the door.


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