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It was discussed here at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49674451 . Frankly I was sure this is the dupe, just based by the title.

As long as mods are human volunteers, can they ever keep up with scale of reddit? I regularly see submissions (on old.reddit's /r/all) that got to 10k+ upvotes and 200+ comments in hour or two before it was taken down for breaking given subredit rules.

Maybe we will skip few steps and add RGB lights to all GPU/NPU devices, that turn red when running "unaligned" code/model.

We can then just put those in the eyes of the humanoid robot models.

And it reports any incident to another robot that would search for you and put you in prison.

you mean the creator hasn't paid Nvidia for the green light?

that's a good one

"It appears you've loaded weights into your GPU that have not been signed/approved by the government of the country your GPU is registered to..."

You wouldn't download the worlds stolen knowledge..

Oh stop, microslop is probably already working on SecureTokenBoot or token2token encryption

I want R2D2 style blinkenlighten!

It would be trivial for spammers to at least use different pattern. I am afraid they keep to the default, cause real users do the same. I am not surprised, the chance of colliding with other user login, on registration, on such old and popular website is high.

If it isn't human landing on Moon/Mars then I can wait for weekly space news write-up on Ars Technica.

29 v2 satellites (around 4 times lighter than v3)

Yeah and v3 has 10x downlink capacity and 20x uplink capacity of the v2.

I think SpinLaunch is great example. They were actually able to fund and make a working prototype, tested it, but still decided it is not practical after all, before pivoting to production of knockoff Starlink-like satellites.

I don't know why people are so fixated on heating as some kind of gotcha. If we already assumed magical 16km^2 solar array, then we can also assume matching size radiator, with heatpumps. If ISS can do it, then there is no technical issue with doing it on bigger scale. It "only" doesn't make any sense from financial viewpoint, terrestrial datacenters beat it in every way.

NVidia's recent support for warm (45 °C) water cooling for their new racks probably had more impact on price of compute than than space servers will ever have.


Why exactly it is clickbaity? It makes perfect sense to me, I understand title as: people told not use AI fired for using AI - without any need for additional context. Mechanical Turk was shut down for exactly same reason, it was always a race to the bottom and using LLMs was cheaper than even third world gig workers. Verifying if task were done by humans is probably harder than doing them in the first place.

Training is far more broad than labeling

"People training OAI AI" has a colloquial meaning of "People working at OAI"

So the headline is built to imply:

"People who work for OAI got fired for using AI to do their job"

When a non-clickbait headline would be

"3rd party workers contracted to distill their human knowledge fired for using AI instead"

Not nearly as "clicky"


But"People who work for OAI got fired for using AI to do their job"

That's exctly what happened


Just make it "contractors training..." And then it's fine?

As I see it, the distinction is between the work of designing and managing the training process, and the work of providing human training data. It's generally considered a good idea to automate the former, but there's a conceptual (information theoretical) issue with automating the latter. I don't know if it makes things more fair, but it's not quite a contractor vs FTE issue.

All data labeling is training, but not all training is data labeling. In this sense, the headline is correct, I don’t get the nitpicking.

Some people would die of dehydration if they read the headline "H2O is a chemical that often kills people".

Really? It’s clickbait because it paints OpenAI as hypocritical: “look they’re marketing AI as valuable, and they won’t even let their own people use it”. When in fact the job description is to not use AI.

I did not get the hypocritical implication from the title and I don't think it's necessarily implied.

This is an odd take. There are many kinds of problems that must be solved using a different system than the first system that got the answer to ensure

1. That system isn't broken in a difficult to tell way.

2. The systems implementation is incorrect.

3. That the theory that particular implementation uses isn't incorrect.

There is nothing hypocritical at all about that.


Please reread. I am not making the claim that OpenAI is hypocritical.

I am making the claim that the article headline is clickbait because it paints OpenAI as hypocritical for firing workers for using AI to do their job, which is a mischaracterization because the whole job is to give human input.


Oh, sorry, I read it wrong.

It will take even longer when they discover supply chain attacks on compilers. I mean they where mostly theoretical so far but that might change any day now.

There's this defense mechanism where people that face criticism on excesses and are proposed moderation, will take it to the extreme in order to defend the excess.

"You are spending too much"

"Hah, if I were to take your advise and reduce all costs, I would spend 0, I would die of hunger and the economy would halt!"

It's less a discussion and more a personal trickery that you do on yourself.


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