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> A full country list inside a native `<select>` has several structural limitations:

> No filtering. Users cannot narrow the list by typing

But you can use an `<input type="text">` instead and add a `<datalist>`[0] to it with the list of countries and you will be able to filter them by typing. Granted, it still has no full support (namely, firefox), but still that's much better than a `<select>` with no filtering ability whatsoever.

Not sure why this is not more known, though, I've seen it just like a couple of times in the wild. Now, back to job searching...

[0] https://developer.mozilla.org/es/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Ele...



At least in Firefox and Chrome on MacOS, you can search <select> dropdown menus by typing.

This might sound silly but I'd consider getting my dog a dog. This will not be the absolute solution but your dog will have a companion and your house will have more life.

My dog has been a beacon of hope through these last years of being alone. Highly agree. They can be a ton of work depending on the breed but there are plenty of dogs at the pound who might end up saving you in the end and not the other way around.

Loneliness is a state of mind. And sometimes when I am with people I feel the most alone. So above all else just be kind to yourself. Eat well, watch things you enjoy, do things you always dreamt of doing as a kid. That is how I stay sane at least, haha.


Not a bad idea actually. She spends each day alone, like me.

Do they have a talking button board yet?

Elephants should do it quicker as they don't do doomscroll when pooping, though

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Is "Microslop" really insulting, though?

You can argue that banning insults is a bad look, bad move, that the insult is warranted or whatever, but are you really going to die on the hill that calling the company Microslop isn't insulting?

insult (verb): to say or do something to someone that is rude or offensive

Corporate personhood at its finest.


Why just make up a definition?

From the oxford dictionary:

Noun: speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.

Verb: a disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or act.

Note the lack of personhood in those definitions. I can insult an object, event, person, corporation or even an idea.


The definition is from the Cambridge dictionary.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/insult


People do work at Microsoft though and they're probably aren't very happy when their work is called slop. You could even say they are feeling insulted or offended.

Simple. Don't produce slop then.

If it offends you so much that people call your work as it is, you should do better work, grow some thicker skin, or stop.


I'd agree but if you ever been on the receiving end of a meme-train you'd see that it's not driven by rationality. I'm not familiar with this issue but my bet would be that even hand-crafted personal projects were being called slop because once meme runs away from initial meaning it just becomes closer to swear word than a meaning.

If there was a lot of handcrafted personal projects coming from Microsoft, their reputation would change. But there isn't. I would imagine anyone who is interested in "handcrafted personal projects" sees the writing on the wall and is at least looking to leave Microsoft, which seems to be positioned to be the Prime Slop Factory.

See, that requires the code to be written by an actual human being, who has agency and a sense of pride and ownership about their work.

Maybe there are still some teams deep inside the bowels of Microsoft that management has forgotten about that still operate like that, but judging by the way the user-facing parts of its products have developed, the mass firings, and the pushing of AI-driven development by upper management, it seems very clear to me that there's very little risk of insulting anything anyone actually cares about.


Hey now, what's wrong with 'slop?' A farmer loves slop. It's dirt cheap, and the pigs don't seem to mind...

The branding people will hate it. Although IMHO the best thing they could do is co-opt it as a feedback term and acknowledge that AI can be hit or miss.

If anything it is a diminutive for a company which really should have named itself Megaslop by now if not Gigaslop or even Teraslop. Poor little Microslop, are those people being nasty again?

Less insulting than Macroslop

It is definitely an insult because it’s used pejoratively. If it is insulting I guess depends on if the target feels insulted. Seeing as they blocked the word, it seems they do.

Why wouldn’t it be? It’s a mean derivation of their company name.

It would be mean if they weren't actually vibecoding copilot & md into notepad, introducing an RCE vulnerability.

In notepad.


They did not rewrite Notepad in Rust? Seems to be an easy target

Why get yourself twisted like this?

They can do a bad thing, and then you can make fun of it with an insult.

Own it, the insult is warranted, why hide and pretend it's not an insult.

If Microsoft is consistently shipping slop, then they deserve insults over it; not every "bad" thing is always unwarranted. Locking someone in a box is "bad", prison is a necessary thing that benefits society. Insults are "bad" and sometimes warranted.


It's as insulting as M$ is

Has there ever been a single good piece of writing that uses "M$" or the likes?

"M$" may not be insulting in itself, but it's certainly typically associated with insultingly poor writing.


> Has there ever been a single good piece of writing that uses "M$" or the likes?

There has not.


How is M$ insulting? It just looks like a leetspeak version of MS.

It is supposed to indicate Microsoft cares only about money, which to me too, seems in the same league as microslop, i.e. mildly insulting but really not rude enough to be worth censoring.

And other insults are just words as well. It's the intention, history, connotation etc. behind words that give them meaning. M$ is meant as an insult, hence it's insulting. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/M$

As I said, I was not aware of the insult.

Maybe they should stop insulting their users with the slop they put out and charge for then.

It's insulting to good, honest slop.

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I would say that “microslop” is akin to the old term “micro$oft”, which was a good sign of immaturity of whoever used it.

I think the most important question here is this: Are users who post the string "microslop" generally desirable participants that will contribute in a productive manner?

I suspect not.


It depends what the purpose of the Discord channel is. Is it for open and frank discussion, or for MS drones to discuss Copilot development. It's a cliche, but banning certain words smacks of 1984-style censorship.

> Is it for open and frank discussion

So... 4chan? Why would you possibly want that in this context?

Although, you're posting on HN so it's probably fair to assume that "open and frank discussion" isn't a very high priority for you.


An even more important question is: why does Microsoft care so much about a handful of people using that term that they are willing to risk getting Streisanded over it?

Nobody cares about banning the few idiots who do nothing but spam "MICROSLOP SUCKS MICROSLOP SUCKS". But banning the entire term "microslop", just in case someone might use it? Well, what kind of response were they expecting?


This is one of those things that's hard to understand without practical moderation experience. The presence of an insulting meme creates the idiots who spam it, and creates a larger category of people who deploy it to toxify what would otherwise be polite and respectful discussion. And low quality comments that get a couple laugh reacts, even if you can consistently remove them within the hour, are fully capable of propagating it.

Keyword bans are definitely a heavy-handed option, they do risk the Streisand effect, and in the worst case that can require the scorched-earth counterresponse described in the source article. But sometimes there's just no other way to kill the meme.


> This is one of those things that's hard to understand without practical moderation experience

I don't think so. I think we all know how we'd react if we heard someone casually using "microslop" in real life. They'd seem like they're larping as a Silicon Valley character or something.


They could kill the meme by...not producing slop.

Could they? You'll note that the source article does not describe even a single example of Copilot, the product the discord server was dedicated to, producing slop.

At one time, Microsoft produced some very high quality software. Excel was an absolutely amazing product in the '90s. That quality has been on a steady decline, and that decline has quickened since Microsoft started investing heavily in OpenAI. Github once had pretty good uptime, now it forces AI features on us and is down a couple of times a month. Windows is full of in-your-face advertising and dedicated AI buttons. These features are not what people want, and don't help anyone. Thus; MicroSlop.

>An even more important question is: why does Microsoft care so much about a handful of people using that term that they are willing to risk getting Streisanded over it?

Because the decision was made by some normal adult without mental health issues who hasn't internalized just how disturbed some people on the internet are?

It really shouldn't be unreasonable for moderators to try to maintain a professional tone. Although in this case they certainly picked the wrong platform if "professional" was what they were going for.


Makes me remember of this, which was posted a few days ago here in HN:

https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2023/05/31/djvu-and-its-c...


I remember Microsoft Front Page had a feature about doing buttons with image sprites and it spitted a ton of JS gibberish.

I don't think the example of the trophy in the article is a good use case this days, you could draw that trophy as a SVG and animate the flames with GSAP or something, or draw each flame frame as a <symbol> and animate that with CSS.


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I've discovered and learned about lots of interesting musicians listening to the radio station of my university


College radio is awesome.


I remember I had a plugin that let you change your profile picture each <x> time. And I seem to recall with ubuntu's notify-osd you could reply to your incoming messages from within the notification itself. I loved using Pidgin.

"Modern" mainstream IM is completely misserable. I hate having to use one-app-per-each-protocol for the sake of "security" and "features".


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