The OCI work mentioned upthread is about interface, not implementation.
Most people who think "Docker sucks" are talking about it's somewhat questionable network layer on Linux and the poor security isolation of the daemon. Non-docker alternatives like Podman don't have that characteristic.
But no one (at least no one reasonable) thinks Dockerfile's building docker images for download from docker-compatible repositories are a bad thing. That stuff runs the world. And the FreeBSD refusal to make a real attempt at interoperability is a confusing wart on what otherwise is pretty good tech.
> Docker sucks and only exists because after all these years, Linux STILL doesn’t have a great way to handle third party applications.
That's... not at all a correct characterization of where Docker found its purchase or what it's used for. Easy containerization dead-to-rights solved the version hell problem of shipping software at scale from vendors and upstreams that can't agree on dependency management. That's not something you can fiat away with "excellent ports and package systems" unless you imagine a world where literally every tiny microservice or cloud backend gadget ends up as a port in a single tree.
Basically you're saying "Docker sucks because I don't do anything that needs containers for anything but security". Well... yeah. I guess it would seem that way.
You are fixating on security. I use jails to keep my softwares separated, for the identical reasons use docker. Except jails is both lighter and much more secure, and I believe, easier to configure.
A couple years ago I was at the Virginia DMV along with about 50 other people doing DMV things when all of a sudden someone comes out from the back and gets in front of all the service windows and announces "The DMV is now closed for the day due to a computer problem. Please leave now."
Some of the people in that crowd had driven hours to get there.
That's why the person who made the coding error should have been disciplined.
Emiratis would describe themselves as a cohesive nation of Emiratis living under seven different Emirs. (There are many YouTube videos about it.) Emiratis from different Emirs do not view themselves as from different ethnicities/tribes/nations.
BTW -- My original post forgot to mention Kuwait as a cohesive nation.
The reaction is worse in what sense, exactly? Raw numbers? Then you're back to the
same argument as above, where October 7th (again, the third deadliest terrorist attack
since records began in 1970) somehow doesn't count.
Nobody serious disputes that Gazan civilians are suffering enormously. The argument
isn't about that. It's about whether Hamas represents them, and the answer is: less
and less, given that Hamas hasn't held an election since 2006, has siphoned aid money
into tunnels and rockets for two decades [1], and on October 7th sent men with garden
tools to decapitate Thai agricultural workers [2] and film themselves doing it.
You can condemn Israel's conduct (and there's plenty to condemn) without pretending
the people who started this particular escalation were freedom fighters having a bad
day.
I think wholesale genocide of an entire population by the Israeli state is worse. The plan is obviously drive the Palestinians onto the sea (metaphorically) and make the place uninhabitable.
Israel (and I want to be clear, I am referring to Israel the state) has blood on their hands. This went way beyond a "self defense" thing - flattening the entire country, indiscriminate killing of civilians and children, murdering paramedics and bombing ambulances, destroying schools hospitals apartment buildings etc. By a modern democratic state with the most accurate smart weapons available. It's simply unbelievable to me that they are getting away with it.
Most of what you say I don't disagree with. Israel's conduct since October 8th (the civilian
death toll, the aid blockade, the flattening of hospitals) is legitimate to call out. The ICJ found the genocide claim plausible enough to issue
binding provisional measures, which Israel then ignored [1]. That's not nothing.
But "wholesale genocide" and "the plan is obviously to drive them into the sea" are stronger claims than the evidence supports right now, and that matters a lot because the moment you overreach, everyone who wants to dismiss Palestinian suffering has a rhetorical exit. The ICJ's own careful language exists for a reason.
None of that touches the original argument anyway: that October 7th was not a "small blip." Israel's conduct after October 8th doesn't retroactively change what happened on October 7th. Both things are true simultaneously. That's the whole point I'm making.
No, I think I have to respectfully disagree: in the continuum of the Palestine-Israel conflict, this was a small blip. Israel has been killing civilians indiscriminately for years/decades, annexing territory, bulldozing homes etc.
What was different this time was that it was Israel who was the victim, not the Palestinians. And the only way that Israel knows how to respond to these kinds of things is to kill and to destroy.
"What was different this time was that it was Israel who was the victim."
You've just described the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust [1] as a blip
because, in your accounting, it was Israel's turn to absorb one.
The "continuum" framing doesn't hold up numerically either. In non-war years, OCHA
records roughly 100–200 Palestinian deaths annually at Israeli hands [2]. Hamas killed
1,139 people before lunchtime. That's not a blip in a continuum, it's five to ten
years of equivalent deaths in eight hours.
The youngest victim was 14 hours old [3]. The oldest was a 92-year-old Holocaust
survivor [3]. None of those facts change based on who you think had it coming.
Everything is a holocaust or genocide to pro-Islamist lefties. Y'all've so discredited those terms that if at some point Israel actually does start a genocide, people will just shrug.
"There's a genocide going on in Gaza? Yeah I know, you've been whining about it for years now."
Come off it, that's a technicality and everyone knows the meaning.
An uncharitable person would easily debunk this by making claims about the idea that 'because of israel they can't have a state to be civilian of' and then the topic gets super muddy because that's technically not true and we go around and around and around.
The Israeli government has been dehumanising the Gazan population in rhetoric for decades. Claiming that no one would deny their suffering is straight up false. It's not a technicality, it's a deliberate technique.
It's one of the things that could be stopped to prevent us going "around and around and around."
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