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I believe it has nothing to do with competence, the hostility is pretty clear. IIRC R.hill had similar experience with Chrome Extension Store years ago. Once they want to kill your extension, they start doing this kind of stuff, at the end Google roll out mv3.


Hi Anna, could you please confirm that your server and yourself are not under US jurisdiction?


I will make no claims about my identity one way or another. If you are worried for me, don't be. If you are worried for yourself, then please take actions in line with your risk tolerance.


More likely they are worried about throwing their money away if the US now has a taste for takedowns.


Anna deserves/needs the support just as much if they have to deal with US takedowns though


I disagree the community should get behind the most viable mechanisms to achieve its goal.

Hosting in the US, by someone in the US is foolish if your goal is breaking US copyright laws.


thats good because i've already forwarded this to my superiors


Maybe a naive question but assuming this isn't a troll, I'm curious why?


its not a troll, just my job, is your question why am i doing my job?


PRISM slides showing NSA hacked those big corps far more earlier[1], and exploited them for global surveillance. Global.

NSA also hacked Huawei in 2013.[2]

The US companies should be thankful that EU didn't block them.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)#/...

[2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/world/asia/nsa-breached-c...


    China is making an effort to influence public opinion in Taiwan through the media.
Take a look at this post I saw a few days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20058551

While two dogs are fighting for a bone, a third runs away with it.

What people saw is disinformation that looks like from China, or China looks like is the most beneficial one from the disinformation. But it doesn't necessarily mean it's from China. There might be third parties faking it to sabotage the relationship between China and Taiwan. Aka false flag.

Or simply put, I could create disinformation about me, then I crack it. That will probably discredit my competitor, even though he/she did nothing.

Of course, people could call this conspiracy theory, because lack of evidence. Similarly, people shouldn't consider that so-called China's effort is true. At least to me, I won't be so sure before I see some solid evidence.


Taiwan is a critical democratic ally off the coast of communist China - why would US intelligence agencies attack the public perception of the sovereignty of the nation?


1. Please ask BEFORE you collect.

2. You can't expect every user to know they are logged, or how it's affecting the user, or know how to disable/delete it, can you?

3. How can I verify that you did delete the data about me instead of just hiding from me for viewing it? Alphabet is not belong to public sector. So the simple answer is I can't. If you want me to trust you, don't use opt-out as default.

4. I'm sure you can tell the differences between those alternatives and Google products.

5. It's not that hard to respect some one's data. First, do not collect it! Second, if you have to collect it, tell the owner why! Third, delete it completely while requested.

6. Aggregated data collection and use without permissions adds potential risks to the society. (Cambridge Analytica)

Edit: And you guys are doing deep learning, that's gonna consume lot's of data. Duplex for example, you use anonymous phone call data to train it. The question is, where does that data even come from? I'd blacklist whoever collected the data, even it's collected anonymously.


> 6. Aggregated data collection and use without permissions adds potential risks to the society. (Cambridge Analytica)

Everything adds "potential risks". When you talk about risk, you have to give estimates of both the frequency and the criticity, and then compare to the potential benefits. Only then you have all the pieces to take an informed decision, according to your preferences.


How do you define benefits? Sacrifice one's privacy without his permission to make ten of others' life easier, would you call it beneficial? If so, let's rob the wealthy to aid the poor.

They can reduce the risks to a certain level if users were told how they are going to use the data and why before using it. Are they going to do that? No, because that increases the cost, which means less profit, which means shareholders won't agree.

So there comes law.


My point was : it is easy to throw a general sentence to make things look obvious and simple, but it doesn't really help the conversation. At some point, claims must be backed by data and methods.


Off topic, is there a way to tag all the stakeholders of the main company/government mentioned in title/article?


Great, another piece of "Don't be evil" with a new coat, and they can ditch it whenever they feel powerful enough to ignore society's feedback.

Such statement absolutely relieves the pressure came from the public, hence law makers. Can we make sure big companies are legally accountable for what they claim to the public? Otherwise they can say just whatever persuades people to be less vigilant about what they are doing, which is so deceptive and irresponsible.


    Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!
I don't know about others, but that naive reaction is definitely not the reaction I have. Selling me ads is acceptable. But using my data without telling me how are you going to use it is considered hostile to me. And, I believe, using aggregate data to research on crowd is dangerous and harmful to the society, even it's anonymous. My personal data is probably only worth a few dimes to them, but aggregate data is not that cheap. Those companies use PII and non-PII to do researches without telling people that they are being researched or how they are being researched or why they are doing it. It's like poeple are lab rats.

No one should have such power without testee's consent. But opt-out empowered them. And the ability to gain insights (with such procedure) on different crowds witch leads to the ability to manipulate the general public makes me nervous.

I don't expect stuff on the internet to be free of charge, but people don't want to pay with money doesn't justify the current business model. You know what is worse? People paid, yet their data is still being collected and used, only less ads.

If what I said is unreasonable or non-sense, please feel free to downvote me, but also please share your thoughts to me. I'd love to change my mind since it's getting really hard to surf the internet these days with my current mindset. It's not the internet I love any more.


I won't call obeying local laws or following host's rules sets precedent. MNCs have been following the local rules since day one. What do you expect?

Would you stop speaking local language because it helps the rulers communicate? Would you stop using the bank notes because it's issued by a dictatorship? You didn't because it's essential to run your business within the country.

The US is your own country, you have obligation to fix it, that's why you stand up against FBI. But not for other countries, they have to fix their own country by themselves.


Or, 4 years late.


Actually, she's been imprisoned for 7 years (3 years before she was convicted).


my thoughts. <3


Beat me to it.


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