"Guy" and "guys" are not the same, at all. The s appended to the end, along with the context, drastically changes the semantic meaning of the word. This is how language works. Even an unchanged word can have totally different meanings depending on the context. You argument here is a strawman that ignores context to the point of pedantic absurdity.
> The s appended to the end, along with the context, drastically changes the semantic meaning of the word.
Yes, words have meaning that change depending on context. That's how English works. It's a bit like how "man" can be used to mean the entirety of the human race, but "man" is in no way a gender neutral term.
To the same end, "guy" is considered by some to be quite gendered, and "guys" is often not, but even with the plural, asking a heterosexual man "how many guys have you slept with?", is often perceived very differently to asking "when did you guys get married?"
The problem here is that the first question, sans context, is going to be interpreted by a number of people to be exclusively male, and essentially never interpreted as exclusively female.
This isn't pedantry, it's just the way the word is perceived.
If it appears that I ignored your comment, it's because I was assuming you weren't making the mistake you now appear to be.
Your argument seems to be that the inclusion of the 2nd-party plural "you" somehow removes the gendered nature of the word, which is not the case for this word or for any other.
I assume you believe that "boys" is gendered, and I assume you will admit that "you boys" is still gendered.
You admit that "guys" is gendered, but you will not admit that "you guys" is still gendered, without being able to provide any sort of evidence as to why.
The second case is identical to the first, the only difference being your specific idiolectical definition, which unfortunately is not generalisable to the English language as a whole.
Please don't make wild assumptions. This isn't a trial. There's no evidence or admittance of anything needed.
These are accepted grammar rules. "you guys" as a second-person plural term is accepted as gender-neutral. "guys" in the third-person is not.
Arguing that the 2nd-person usage is not neutral is the new challenger position and you would need to provide the argument for why the accepted usage should change for the rest of us.
I built a new computer and for the first time in over a decade I wanted to try Windows, but apparently I was missing drivers for something. It never told me what I needed drivers for, and even with all the drivers for all the parts I could find on a separate USB drive, it couldn't find the drivers that I supposedly needed, so I gave up and chose to install Ubuntu instead.
Ubuntu apparently knew all the drivers I needed, fetched them from beyond the great ether, and all was in harmony.
Why is this so easy for Canonical, but not Microsoft?
Ah, ok, wasn't obvious to me, either. I always wonder, if it's legal in Germany, because you need to have an imprint easily accessible (from any page I think). Might not be relevant for here, but am just curious.
Is there an easy way out of it after? The first time I used that button I had to turn off my Wi-Fi so I could down to the "top" and click the button again without infinite scroll kicking in.
Why the hell would you want your diet to be salt free? Sodium is essential to proper bodily functions. You're going to hurt yourself by over-limiting sodium and using potassium chloride.
Open source offices are a result of companies not willing to train. Everyone wants to hire someone with experience in their tools, and also only hire young people, so what are young people going to do? They're going to teach themselves free tools.
EDIT: I'm apparently a blind idiot in the morning. Misread the parent comment.
Wow, racist much?