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Indeed it seems absurd, but maybe the Chinese government sent a spy to honeypot Huang into destroying (indirectly) its own company instead - knowing how western culture react to such events.

Mission accomplished

And yet you've a convicted felon who vacationed on Epstein island sitting at the highest office in the land, or even in the world.

maybe Gmail isn't that bad... Yes you may be targeted with ads and what else brings revenue to Google. Yes you could expect that law enforcements may scan/seize your inbox but if you're kind of fine with either of these, I certainly trust more Google than anything else when it comes to protect against real hackers/unauthorized access

Not 10 months... Binance revenue was 17B in 2024 (no disclosure in 2025, certainly a bit lower but still). The frozen assets from the stolen 5.8B come close to 3B, so they have at most a 3B loss if nothing is recovered from now on. Significant but that's no more than 3 months of revenue.


It's all about agentic work. Tmux doesn't know what an Agent is. You use Pi, you use CC, you use Codex, ... they all have primary supports in Herdr with built-in integrations around each of these harnesses

But if you don't do any agentic work, Herdr has 0 value vs. tmux.


I use Claude Code extensively as I mentioned, but what does “primary support” look like? Why should tmux “know” what an agent is?

I just use tmux with multiple ghostty sessions and I have different Claude code sessions behind different tabs and panes and work like that.

What am I missing out on that justifies now using a normal terminal+tmux anymore?


lol at the other replies waffling at you without describing the things that makes herdr appealing:

* agentic inbox [see which agents are waiting for your input/working/idle etc] * agents can read, spawn, send-input etc other herdr panes * makes cross harness orchestration / communication easier

fwiw I liked herdr initially but bounced after like a week because ghostty + notifications + harness extensions gave me enough that it wasnt worth learning the new thing.


If tmux can know what an agent is, it can be leveraged to communicate with an instance of that agent (input and output) given it owns the PTY, and that terminal output can be structured somehow.

If it can communicate with the agent, it can be used to drive the agent - to send it tasks, and communicate the status of those tasks.

And so Herdr - and Superlogical, and others, is a tool which leverages PTY ownership and terminal protocols to allow orchestration of coding agents across vendors using their CLI surfaces.


But Claude Code and Codex and the rest of tui harnesses are also very good at just typing in each other's panes basically when I need to send a message over. It's been working for almost a year now. I have been more intrigued by T3 code or something similar, just to be able for harnesses to message across machines.

overall not so much, but basically if inside tmux you have 100 terminals opened and only 10 of those has 'agents' it will allow you switch quickly between those 10 terminals without spending too much time on locating those. also it will show statuses about agents, is it work done already and you may need to check it and stuff like this.


If you do Claude remote control plus Claude app/site you get all of that though...scratches head.


part of the point is so you don’t need to stick with claude/anthropic apps? you can use other models i’m assuming


I would assume other models have their own harnesses as well but I guess if you want it at all in one place that would make sense. I just need a single model.

This is more like a harness for harnesses imo? or a managing interface. some have their own

True, but tmux is very configurable

https://github.com/hiroppy/tmux-agent-sidebar

Has been pretty nice


How to properly secure it?

If you put it in a sandbox than herdr can no longer see it, can it?


I was wondering this, too. The desktop appears to be based on herdr-core, and naturally I'd have imagined Herdr Server (terminal) to migrate to herdr-core as well. In fact I'm not even sure why they built herdr-core when they had Herdr Server ..

Anyway, the best comment I could find is that one here where even the main dev doesn't know the direction .. https://github.com/herdrdev/herdr-app/issues/63#issuecomment...

Lack of vision and fragmentation is concerning


I was initially excited because I thought I could just try out a new frontend while keeping my 10 existing spaces each with 10 worktrees each with 2 or more tabs untouched.


Same here - just started to really get going with herdr not sure I want to worry about moving again


Exactly, the time on the clock is just a number, can't understand people complaining about this.. If one wants to have its dinner at sunset then so be it, whether the sunset is at 4PM or 9PM. I mean I get it some people don't have a freewill unfortunately but many people can dictate how their day shall look like


If I need to go to the bank, or the gym, or do basically anything involving other people, I can't just like, do whatever, man. I'm sort of beholden to the rest of the world's scheduling. How is that hard to understand?


Online banks, 24/7 gyms (or close to). That's my situation .. Yes I can't shop at 3AM if that's going to be your next point, but I'm okay with that one :-)

With that said, I don't know where you live nor what is your situation, and like I said previously many people can dictate how their day shall look like but of course not everybody can.


You confuse "not wanting the government manipulating everybody's clock" with "wanting to manipulate other people's schedule".


If we could just all stick to UTC in the world... DST is just a (North) American and European invention, nobody in the world follow that non sense. And whether DST or Winter time, it doesn't matter, just choose one or the other, it can only be better than the current situation


Going with UTC doesn't work all that well.

Time zones give a rough idea of where the sun is and whether people are more likely to be asleep or not.

Like I know if I schedule a meeting at 8am in New York, that's 5am in California so I'm unlikely get people from California to attend. Or at least it's pretty rude of me to expect people in California to attend

If I schedule a meeting at 12 UTC - that gives no indication of where the sun is in New York or California (or anywhere).

The fact is people tend to do things with the sun is up and sleep when it's down. Time zones are a compromise so your clock is still kind of in sync with the sun while still being able to synchronize with larger areas.


Not sure what the position of the sun has to do with when people work. If you schedule a meeting with me before 11am, I probably won't make it, since I'm still sleeping. You can schedule a meeting with me at 11pm if you want, though.

Or, we could skip the meeting. I won't mind.


One person with a weird schedule has absolutely nothing, at all, to do with how the vast, overwhelming number of people in the world work. Come on.


My schedule isn't particularly weird and I've got plenty of colleagues working even later than me.


> If we could just all stick to UTC in the world...

A very useful property of the current system is that calendar days are aligned with solar days and the change of calender date consequently happens when most of the population is either asleep or otherwise not too fussed about the exact date.

UTC-only (or equivalent "global time" proposals) breaks that for everybody not living near wherever the meridian ends up, which causes a lot of weirdness when a single calendar date can suddenly refer to two completely different solar days and two completely different wake cycles.

Additionally, such a proposal would also break all clock time references in fiction, especially when reading works set abroad or in some unspecified (but still Earth-like) setting, but I guess if you don't care about the calendar date weirdness, you wouldn't care about that, either…


It's very approximate. You've Spain which has almost +3 hours of offset in the west of the country with the sun during DST, while you have countries like Japan which are in the negative territory (Tokyo).

Or, you have Spanish people who start their dinner at 10PM while Germans living in the same timezone are already sleeping at that time...


> It's very approximate.

Yeah, but within that approximation it's still very useful to be able to immediately have a rough idea without having to explicitly look it up each time. Plus like I said, calendar date/weekday changes happening during the middle of the day would be the much bigger annoyance…


Huh.. well maybe... but I can only assume you are not a developer


Competition on what to do with it, not on pricing: Dot is free (assuming you've a subscription), Duet isn't. I'd not want precious tokens to be wasted by some random polling Duet may be doing, all while using Opus as its underlying agent.


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