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Probably the end of Nest as we know it.


Has nest really had a successful product past the v1 hockey puck thermostat?


I have their security suite (home unit, 2 door triggers (and it came with an outdoor cam). I love it. No issues, geofencing when I leave so I can enable the alarm (or when I come home). And the app is smooth as butter. I'm waiting for the doorbell now.


The smoke detectors are fucking great. Even if they are expensive they are worth every cent.


Those are Nest's worst product.

Failure to detect smoke: "Consumer Product Safety Commission: Nest Labs Recalls to Repair Nest Protect Smoke + CO Alarms Due to Failure to Sound Alert" [1]

False alarms.[2]

[1] https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2014/nest-labs-recalls-to-repai...

[2] https://www.dailydot.com/debug/nest-protect-annoying/


> Failure to detect smoke

Incorrect. If you examine the announcement you linked, the issue was a failure to alarm when smoke was detected (below UL's must-alarm threshold, above which the Protect ALWAYS alarmed) due to false detection of a hand-wave as part of the "Wave to Hush" feature. This feature was remotely disabled on all Protects via a software update.

> False alarms.

Not for a long time. The second-gen Protect, which has been out for years, includes much-improved smoke sensors and algorithms. This is reflected in its unusually-high 4.6 star Amazon rating [0].

> Those are Nest's worst product.

How did you reach this conclusion? In addition to its outstanding score on Amazon, the second-gen Protect is frequently recommended by professional reviewers [1][2][3].

Anecdotally, I have 3 first-gen Protects in my home (in addition to 2 second-gens) and have never had any false alarms (except when I forget to run the fan while cooking bacon, and fill the entire house with smoke...).

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Nest-Protect-Carbon-Monoxide-Generati... [1] https://www.popsci.com/nest-protect-smoke-co-detector-review [2] https://www.cnet.com/products/nest-protect-second-generation... [3] https://www.engadget.com/2015/09/16/nest-protect-review-2015... [4] https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/nest-protect-smoke-alarm-...


Perhaps it would be more convincing if these reports weren't over 3 years old. I own multiple Nest Protects, with no issues whatsoever. A year ago, I got pinged on my phone while we were out and about about a CO leak. Turned out we'd forgotten to turn the stove off. Without that ping, we'd probably only have come home a couple of hours later. That alone is worth their cost to me.


What's worth the cost? Some saved gas from the stove?


Saving a possible inflammation probably?


I always thought they were fairly pointless, until a friend convinced me of how much he really loves them, knowing the kids and dogs are safe, etc etc. I still don't quite "get" it, the connected thermostat makes sense, but based on his recommendation (and how I hate having to fight false alarms on our detectors-mounted-out-of-reach every 3-6mo due to burning something in the kitchen), I'm actually going to buy a stack of protects to replace our existing detectors.


I felt the same way. I never quite got understood shelling out $100 for a smoke detector when i need to buy 7 of them. It's just a smoke detector right? If i'm lucky it wont do anything for 10 years until i replace it. Why not just get a cheap one from the store.

We'll i bought one for the kitchen to try out. At some point my wife burned dinner and the alarm went off and notified my phone. It was that notification that made me realize, ah ha, i get it. This $100 purchase is giving me piece of mind. This thing is smart, and its protecting me. Not only that, i bet google put way more engineering into this then some cheap one.

Now that i have kids, i have piece of mind that nest protect is protecting my kids while they sleep. Might sound silly to some, but thats how i feel.


Yeah, the most important feature to me it's that I know exactly what they are trying to warn me about, they don't start screaming at me immediately and I know if one is going bad because the app tells me. Overall I love the experience, they are damn pricy though. If they could figure out a way to get them around $60 they would sell them like hotcakes.


I have a v3, and I really like it. Do you have any objections to the later versions?


The end was when Google purchased it and the founder left a few months later.


A good, recent, and comprehensive primer on intelligence explosion and its theoretical implication: "Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence" by MIT physicist Max Tegmark.


Instamotor | San Francisco, CA | Front-End / Full-Stack Engineer, Swift Engineer, Kotlin Engineer, Elixir/Ruby Backend Engineer | Full-time, ONSITE | www.instamotor.com

We are a car marketplace that combines vehicles and financial services all in one place. We are backed by great investors and have a small & dynamic team. Our frontend stack is react/redux/node, our iOS app is written using Swift and react-native, our Android app is written in Kotlin, and our backend is ruby+Elixir for micro services.

Email [email protected]


same. TR 1950X over here.


What OS are you running on it, and how has your stability been?


Ubuntu 17.10. Also running a Nvidia 1080 Ti. Everything is liquid cooled. Works like a charm


(Not OP.) FreeBSD has been rock solid on 1950x for me. I've attempted to reproduce the "kill ryzen" reliability problem reported on some of the desktop CPUs and been unable to.


Is there support for Bhyve?


Yep.


(not OP) I run OpenSuse 42.3 and it works flawlessly.


I can confirm that it tastes best when you wait. I occasionally go Ahi fishing off the shore of Kauai with friends, and they usually ice it right away and wait a couple of days before cutting it for sashimi.


Instamotor. met right here :)


The Instamotor Android app is entirely built using Kotlin.


At Instamotor we use Elastic Search, Redis, and S3 for files/photos. In my previous job (Nest), we looked at a decent number of options and ended up going with Cassandra.


Instamotor (marketplace + fintech, San Francisco) is on there and we're hiring engineers :) [email protected]


This app is interesting. I do wonder how customers react to "verified" vs. certified pre-owned (CPO) from the dealer. Those dealership fees do give purchasers a certain level of comfort that I'm not sure a verification alone can disintermediate. It'll be interesting to see if you guys can keep the big autos from squashing you out of existence.


I'm not personally looking, but would be curious in a brief rundown of tech, business, and your example day-to-day.

Good luck!


happy to! email me at [email protected]


It'd be better if you did it here...


Emailed you... do you have your positions posted anywhere? I didnt see a /jobs page...

Thanks


Instamotor | Fullstack Engineer & Frontend Engineer & PR-lead & Content-Writers | San Francisco | Full-Time

Instamotor is building the world's largest marketplace for cars and the financial services around it. Our team is composed of senior/exec level people previously at Amazon, Google, LendingClub, Nest...etc. We’re thinkers, relentless doers, and are backed by over $8M in funding from top investors who successfully funded companies like Airbnb, Square, Uber, Zappos, ProductHunt...etc. Think of us as the combination of a fintech company and a marketplace.

Stack: - frontend: React / redux / node - backend: Ruby / Elixir - mobile: Kotlin / Swift - datastore: postgres / redis / elastic search

Apply: [email protected]


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