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Except there weren't really any mass harassment, rape and death threat, and firing campaigns being coordinated against ordinary people for not sufficiently mourning someone. Most of the "cancel culture" stuff was overblown nonsense, the few real events were against massive public figures credibly accused of heinous things like Weinstein.

Pretending this is in any way equivalent betrays either an intense naivete or a supporter of this pre-pogrom behavior.


What about the stuff around George Floyd. Weren't people accosted and forced to kneel down and repent?

e.g. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8664345/Aggressive-...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1267283980514201610

https://twitter.com/i/status/1269043437275435016

Etc.

Maybe some of them knelt voluntarily. But what would have happened if they hadn't. To me at the time there seemed to be a lot of social pressure to "kneel" and accept the narrative and the will of the mob.


I fear I've been misunderstood, or at least over-interpreted.

> mass harassment, rape and death threat

From what I've seen (and notwithstanding the claims in TFA, which are unsupported by evidence other than allegations), these things aren't happening this time either, and the voices organizing the firing campaigns are against them.

In particular, Ms. Gilmore's story cannot be reconciled with the evidence available to me.

I have in some places seen dehumanizing rhetoric. This is of course still not okay, but it clearly comes from a place of genuine hurt.

Also, my standard objection here: telling people that you hope a terrible thing happens to them is not acceptable, but it is also objectively not a "threat", and it bothers me when it's falsely characterized that way.

> for not sufficiently mourning someone

This is not a reasonable representation of the cause of action. We're talking about people who outright celebrate Kirk's death or insinuate that it was somehow deserved.

> Most of the "cancel culture" stuff was overblown nonsense, the few real events were against massive public figures credibly accused of heinous things like Weinstein.

Strongly disagree. Matt Rose, James Damore, the list goes on and on (but I've left behind the days when I kept track in any serious way).

> Pretending this is in any way equivalent betrays

I feel much the same about people who equate a guy getting killed for his political beliefs with people losing their job for expressing ideology that can reasonably be considered incompatible with doing the job.

(I'm sure there are people outside the professions I mentioned in the other thread getting targeted. As I already said, I oppose that.)


They didn't claim that there were any, just that AGI isn’t a necessary requirement for an application to be world-changing.


They did claim it was possible there were

> There are possibly applications of existing AI/ML/SL technology which could be more impactful than general intelligence

It's not unreasonable to ask for an example.


They said "there are possibly applications", not "there are possible applications". The former implies that there may not be any such applications - the commenter is merely positing that there might be.


So they possibly said something to try and sound smart, but hedged with “possibly” so that nobody could ask for details or challenge them. Possibly peak HNery


I've used Promptfoo for client projects and really enjoyed it once I got my head around it.


This makes me want to build agents in Elixir now


Agents don't typically, and any LLM they're calling is likely hosted remotely.


That doesn't negate what OP was saying at all, the better support in Python isn't for "running ML/AI code" but in things like agent frameworks, observability tools, SDKs, etc. None of which directly run AI code but are still helpful/necessary and for the most part better represented (and supported) in the Python world, although that seems like it's slowly changing.


There are agent frameworks in most languages at this point so the question just comes down to "can you invoke tools for the problem you want to solve in that language". Yes, Python is really great at that. So is Go and Javascript.

I think I'd condense this out to "this is not a really important deciding factor in what language you choose for your agent". If you know you need something you can only get in Python, you'll write the agent in Python.


Maybe I've aged out of it or something but the userbase has gotten so much more annoying (and was already annoying when I finally started using it around 2010) over the last several years, that I've almost entirely quit it. I used to mod large subs, I started a company with a group of guys I met on Reddit (and we still have our own group chat), and its just completely lost all appeal to me. It's like every user is the annoying college freshman that thinks they're an expert on all things because of half a semester of intro physics.


And destroying the rest of their economy to do it


It’s like a whole post of all the things you’re not supposed to do with Python, nice.


Also years for both for me (I probably read and watched them in 2003), but your impression of the two is the exact same as mine.


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