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GrapheneOS OOTB experience and feature set make any other phone feel cheap even iphones.

0 ads, 0 bloat, 0 unknown connections with maximum security.


True but you can also argue the opposite since its a lot easier to loose it and more exposed to more people that could be thieves.

Yes and that seems not very realistic considering they would need to replace the Linux kernel because of the GPLv2 license not allowing that.

It would be a giant undertaking akin to rebuilding the whole OS from scratch considering they have build thousands of hard and software dependencies over two decades. Reminds me of "just rebuild windows" lol


They have claimed to be degoogled for a very long time despite it regularly connecting to google. I don't see a reason to suddenly believe them unless they are as transparent and actually without Google connections like GrapheneOS.

https://grapheneos.org/faq#default-connections


It gets Android OS feature updates not security/firmware updates. GOS aims to be the most secure OS possible without compromise so they aren't supporting devices without them.

Pixel 3a only offered 3 years of security updates. Current GOS supported devices support up to 7 years.


>the tech companies were on the side of the American people. They fought to defend the 4th amendment.

So not only will we pretend PRISM didn't happen but somehow they even fought it?


Another opt out anti feature. Luckily better forks like Mullvad Browser and LibreWolf exist that actually deliver what Firefox promises.

Can you point me to the source code i can run on the device? Otherwise it's just another pinky promise for a blackbox by a company that can change at any time even for individual user.


So basically, you have no evidence that there's an issue but you won't assume anyone isn't lying?


Yes i take the billion dollar company with a blackbox is lying over blind trust. and like i said before even if they do not do it now they can at anytime change it for anybody silently.


I'm suggesting that you can see clear differences in incentives between the big tech companies, paying attention to their business models and the differences in what they claim, in writing, shows you quite a bit of information about how they treat your data.

If you decide that everyone is lying to you all the time, you can't build a useful model of objective reality. You just end up frustrated and not taking simple actions you can to make improvements for yourself and others. Don't fall into that trap.


>If you decide that everyone is lying to you all the time, you can't build a useful model of objective reality

I don't assume just know history, PRISM. I don't see how not trusting apple means I can't trust anybody. On hackernews people should know better to trust anything but transparency (source code) which might as well be the dictionary defined opposite of apple.


because privacy != anonymity e.g you have privacy in your home but everbody still knows you live there.


not at all. there is no encryption that can save you when one of the legitimate participants is somehow compromised. doesn't even need to be a sophisticated device compromise, literal shoulder surfing does that too.


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The parent said "it's surprising". It's not surprising.


You're correct in the literal sense that they did say those words, but the entire comment clearly demonstrated a lack of surprise that reveals the opening words to be intended ironically.


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