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Good list, although things get weird when you are limited by some legacy software/database.

You are always limited by some legacy software/database.

If you're not limited by some legacy software/database initially then you will have such a large problem scope that you'll create your own legacy software/database internally.

I'll grant that if your problem is really simple and straightforward you can sometimes just build an ideal greenfield solution that's perfect and wonderful - but those problems are rarely the problems that are profitable to solve.


Find a community!

People are still meeting other people. I have a good community with a great library and a park district. They offer many sports and other programs. Right now, I'm busy doing everything with my kid but intend to join some stuff on my own once he is more independent.

Science, book, and sports communities are amazing for meeting people. Then you just pick who you vibe with and see if they are open to hang out outside of the group setting.


This hasn't worked very well for me, but I think this sort of advice is a lot like "seek therapy" -- it's not strictly bad or good, but different people have different outcomes. In other words, I don't want to downplay the advice, since for certain it will be good advice for some people. It just hasn't been successful for me.

> Then you just pick who you vibe with

This is the problem, though. So many hobby clubs and societies have pre-existing cliques, you don't get to pick - you get selected if they deign, or excluded if not.

I've felt lonelier in many societies than on my own, if that makes sense.


True, but if they always have an influx of new people, you can form your friendships with them.

You can also start your own club - my local friends, I've made through starting a D&D group and running a campaign with them.


I have friends who are cops.....the amount of shenanigans that happens behind the curtains is insane. It is literally full of high school drama, divorces, sleeping around, just all around poor behavior.

Unfortunately, the same happens in other high stress industries. Nurses are wild too.


I don’t think “high stress” is the common denominator for that kind of behavior. That just sounds like horny, immature humans - happens in lots of places.

It happens essentially everywhere. If you think it doesn't happen at your place of work, it's likely just because you haven't been included in the gossip circle.

Drama is stressful/exciting. People who have a high tolerance for stress/excitement are the ones who take on stressful jobs (nurses, police, flight attendants...) and the ones who are more tolerant of/likely to engage in drama.

Exactly.

Is Florida State University also a high-stress environment?

or…birds of a feather?


I don't give a shit about what cops do on their time off, as long as it's legal. It's what they do in a uniform that matters.

This happens everywhere, your office just isn't sharing the gossip with you

I've lost many friendships because I grew out of things. My friends were a bad crowd involved in street racing and just being a nuisance. No real direction and involvement from parents. I was that too.

At some point I realized I need to improve my life and went back to school for CS. Got a good job and got my life together. My "friends" are still doing the same things, they just got older. If we met today, I would never befriend them.

I did however meet new friends, but they are not as close to me. I like keeping distance. I'm mostly focused on spending time with my child and just teaching him things. I also try to learn about sports and things he is interested in. Therefore, time for friends is limited.


Having a family also reduces the driver to connect with random people.

How is the Cybertruck luxury? The electric motors feel nice....but the car is so far from luxury. Have you ever been in an S class? A 7 series?

Literally most SUVs will tick most of these boxes at a significant discount.


I have owned a S class, a porsche 911 and several luxury SUVs.

"most of these boxes" - I need all.


What kind of dev salaries are you seeing in Poland?

I have family in Poland, they are from smaller villages and they ALWAYS complain about EU and the economy. I wonder if things are similar in large cities.


> and they ALWAYS complain about EU and the economy

That's funny because Poland became dramatically richer after joining the EU, it allowed them access to one of the richest markets on Earth.

I understand that if you're from a smaller village you might also have missed the enormous infrastructure investments (highways, airports, sewage systems, etc.) that have only been possible because of EU money.

Then there's all the foreign companies that you mentioned whose investments have provided jobs directly and indirectly - as a EU member, Poland has become a lot more attractive for foreign investors.

And arguable, Poland carries a much bigger weight in international policies then it used to.

These points are not to say that there's nothing to criticize about the EU. As a matter of fact, there's not shortage of things to criticize. But it's unfair not to see the enormous gains Poland got since joining.

I would go so far as to argue that Poland is one of the biggest success stories of post-1989 Europe.


> I understand that if you're from a smaller village you might also have missed the enormous infrastructure investments (highways, airports, sewage systems, etc.) that have only been possible because of EU money.

That's the key. There wasn't enough done to ensure that everyone can enjoy the benefits. That why at some point populists won the vote and ruled the country for 8 years. They are still kicking. Recently elected president of Poland is from the populist camp. They still have support even though they didn't really hide their kleptocratic tendencies. Fortunately somehow they didn't manage to do significant macroeconomic harm. But they stalled development of renewables for a decade.


You really ought to call out Nawrocki and PiS by name (populist president/party), for all the non-Europeans out there.

For anyone new to Polish politics, here's an easy mnemonic: PiS = piss.

>Fortunately somehow they didn't manage to do significant macroeconomic harm.

Yay for parliamentary systems with proportional representation.

That's how.


this is Poland for you. everyone complains about everything. perhaps that's the secret to success - there's always something to complain about and one in a hundred (or thousand) people actually does something about it.

> this is Poland for you. everyone complains about everything

That is western Europe for you, not just Poland. Same in the Netherlands, same in Sweden, same in Belgium, same in Denmark, same in Norway, same in France, same in Germany, etcetera. Descartes claimed that he thought, therefore he was. A more realistic and equally erudite quote would be Queror, ergo sum which translates to I complain, therefore I am.

(also, q.e.d. because I'm complaining about people complaining)


>That is western Europe for you, not just Poland

Sorry, no, you are missing the point.

The specific anti-EU complaining among the less-educated, older and rural population which benefits a lot from Poland being an EU state is not the same in Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium, Norway.

It is the same in Hungary and Slovakia though, for a reason.

Today's news brings us the following headline:

"Fugitive former Polish Justice Minister Zbigniew Ziobro is now in the United States courtesy of a visa from President Donald Trump after fleeing Hungary, local media report."[1]

In case it is not apparent to you, Ziobro was running on the PiS party ticket — the very same party running on the anti-EU sentiment that the people we're discussing have, in all certainty, voted for.

That's in the wake of another PiS-aligned fugitive judge, Tomasz Szmydt, fleeing investigation for espionage to find refuge in... Belarus[2].

Naturally, he condemned Poland for being too "pro-Western".

Swedish judges don't do that, while hiding in Belarus.

You don't have PiS in Sweden.

And Trump isn't welcoming fugitive Justice Ministers from Sweden into the US because they can't hide in Hungary anymore..

...because the Hungarian MAGA lost the elections there (in spite of JD Vance flying over to campaign for Orban, Orban giving speeches at CPAC, and Trump explicitly praising him).

Do you realize how off mark your objection to applying "the MAGA moniker" to PiS supporters is?

It's not even metaphorical; they're directly collaborating on a political level.

Have a good one, hope you learned something.

Skol.

[1] https://www.politico.eu/article/ex-poland-justice-minister-z...

[2] https://visegradinsight.eu/judge-hater-penitent-spy-the-stor...


> this is Poland for you. everyone complains about everything

Must be the proximity to Germany...


It's quite incredible how close Poland and Germany are culturally. And how unaware both countries are about this.

Are they really unaware or do they actively deny the cultural connections? Prussia was a thing not that long ago - it is still used as a slang term for Germans in parts of the Netherlands ("de Pruisen" of "die Preußen"). Anyone who had a bit of history or who has looked at an older map sees that Prussia was divided between what is now Germany and Poland. Of course both countries went through a lot of upheaval between then and now but there's still plenty of people alive who will remember living in Prussia.

>I have family in Poland, they are from smaller villages and they ALWAYS complain about EU and the economy

Ah, the Polish MAGA.

Probably Russian-influenced as well.


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No, he's right.

It's not republican vs democrat. It's about people who weren't lucky enough (and word lucky does a lot of work here) to feel the benefits of the progressive policies. People who are easily captured by populist grifters, using simplest scaremongering tactics that russian propaganda happily manufactures and disseminates in the West.

In US it stopped being republicans vs democrats many years ago. They just didn't throw away the old labels.


Dziękuję bardzo! Ale oni i tak nic nie przeczytają :(

Två kan spela samma spel, frågan är vem det nu är som läser eller lyssnar och vem inte gör det. Det hjälper inte heller att kalla allt som inte passar åsiktskorridoren som 'extremhöger' eller amerikanska versionen av samma konceptet, inte heller att peka fingret mot påstådda 'fienden' och kalla honom för ryssvänlig.

Also, let's speak English here so everyone understands what we're talking about. Ja nje omje moviez po Polsku (I probably butchered the spelling but you get my drift). Ja nje gawarje pa roesskie either but English I can do pretty well.


>Två kan spela samma spel, frågan är vem det nu är som läser eller lyssnar och vem inte gör det. Det hjälper inte heller att kalla allt som inte passar åsiktskorridoren som 'extremhöger' eller amerikanska versionen av samma konceptet, inte heller att peka fingret mot påstådda 'fienden' och kalla honom för ryssvänlig.

>Also, let's speak English here so everyone understands what we're talking about. Ja nje omje moviez po Polsku (I probably butchered the spelling but you get my drift). Ja nje gawarje pa roesskie either but English I can do pretty well.

The funny thing here is that if one skips the non-English part of your comment, they don't miss anything of substance that applies to this discussion.

I'm not "playing games", and I've stated the facts in my longer comment. Please respond there if you have opinions, and please quote the parts you're not agreeing with, because here you seem to be arguing with points nobody in this conversation made.

In any case, I'm happy for you in Sweden (I presume), where, unlike the people you're attempting to correct, you are not directly affected by either MAGA in the US or the Polish equivalent.

I'm guessing that nobody ever called you a kurwa when they heard you speak, or threatened to beat you up in public for looking too queer, so you can still have enlightened opinions about American and Polish "conservatives" without ever having to interact with them.

I'm sorry you were triggered by seeing the word "MAGA" to the extent that you felt the need to tell me to stop talking. Sadly, in a discussion about Poland and the anti-EU sentiment there, MAGA is very much relevant.

I accept your non-apology in all the languages you don't speak, and I'm glad that you have a sufficient command of the English language to participate in this discussion.

Nice Swedish too though. Have you been studying it for a while?

Since we are discussing Poland, knowing a bit of Polish to understand the context would have been useful. Unfortunately, the Swedish language plays very little role in the geopolitical situation we're discussing, and won't help you understand either MAGA or PiS supporters.

Speaking of understanding, I'm curious about your basis for understanding American, Polish, and Russian politics, given that you don't appear to have any lived experience, direct exposure, or command of the languages (aside from English, presumably). I surely hope your knowledge of the US politics is sourced from more than Hacker News and media personalities like John Oliver.

In any case, thank you again for trying to say something that another person might find valuable, and I wish you luck in your next attempt.

Skol.


>Ehhh, because only MAGA complains

No.

Because Russia has specifically invested in propaganda efforts influencing rural voters in Poland to support Polish far-right parties (and PiS), using it to foster anti-EU and anti-Ukraine sentiment.

The Polish farmers blocking the border checkpoints used for delivery of military aid to Ukraine a few years ago as "ptotest" was a mirror image tactic of the Canadian conservative truckers blocking the roads.

Russian investment and collusion with conservative and authoritarian movements worldwide — and MAGA in particular — is well-documented. I welcome you to read Mueller's report.

>Don't politicise where it is not applicable

Don't tell me what to do.

You're out of your depth here to determine what's applicable, and what isn't.

>this has nothing to do with the cat fight between 'democrats' and republicans

It has everything to do with the geopolitics and the war taking place in Ukraine, in which both Poland and the US hold a stake (and are both targeted by Russian influence campaigns on that dimension).

Not the "cat fight". The real war.

Look, I'm a Ukrainian-American who went to Ukraine during the war (spent a month in Kyiv in 2023), and lived in Poland for about a year.

I speak Ukrainian, Russian, and English at native proficiency, and I know enough Polish to be renting an apartment there, owning a car, etc.

Russian disinformation campaigns are my special interest. I can tell you a lot about Surkov's postmodern Firehose-of-Falsehood machinery, Gerasimov's hybrid war doctrine, and how it was instrumental in the 2014 invasion of Ukraine as well as 2016 US election meddling and the rise of MAGA.

I can direct you to RAND and RUSI studies, books and articles by Pomerantsev, Applebaum, Gessen, which will give you a wider look into Russia's hand in the right-wing "conservative" voices across the world and in the EU in particular (Orban in Hungary, Fico in Slovakia, AfD in Germany, and PiS supporters in Poland).

But you really won't learn anything if you insist on projecting your myopic US-centric attitude that purports that MAGA is a dem-vs-not-dem "cat fight".

I'm happy that you get to live in a world where you can avoid "politicizing" politics.

Out in the real world, complaining about the EU while living in a EU country whose economy was lifted from shambles by the EU is inherently a political issue.

And it's not coincidentally similar to MAGA supporters e.g. rallying against Obamacare only to discover that they literally depend on it for survival, and in general, voting against Democrats while benefitting from and depending on the policies that Democrats established.

And it's not coincidental that the Polish anti-EU rural voters are sharing the anti-immigration, "they took our jobs" sentiment with MAGA even as immigration provided an immense boost to both the US and Polish economy.

Ukrainians number in millions in Poland because of the war; MAGA's anti-Mexican sentiment maps 1:1 to anti-Ukrainian sentiment in Poland — specifically because Russian information warfare efforts help fuel both (it's a literal industry in Russia, with infamous St. Petersburg human-staffed "bot farms" being well exposed by now).

I'm not saying that all MAGA is like that, but there is a sufficiently big overlap (and a sufficient amount of evidence) that me saying that those rural anti-EU folks are Polish MAGA has a lot more weight than you are realizing.

As other commenters have pointed out, by the way.

So, if I may: please revert your downvote and learn.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.


To anyone still reading this thread:

Today's news brings us the following headline:

"Fugitive former Polish Justice Minister Zbigniew Ziobro is now in the United States courtesy of a visa from President Donald Trump after fleeing Hungary, local media report."

Case closed, ladies and gentlemen and everyone in between.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ex-poland-justice-minister-z...


You seem to assume that I'm an American? I'm not, nor do I live in the Americas. You're not an American either but for some reason you seem to have taken over an awful lot of the "democratic" viewpoints. Those viewpoints are quite polarising whether you see this or not and they're largely based around the "democratic" attempt to gain the upper hand in American elections by creating an "us versus them" narrative in which everyone who does not abide to a desired narrative is part of, in collusion with or influenced by "them". You insist I don't tell me what to do when I call out your reference to 'MAGA' in a thread around Poland being a growing economy but in the same post you tell me to 'revert my downvote' (what downvote? I do not vote down, I discuss) and that I should 'learn'. Well, I learn all the time and from your discourse I learned that you seem to have taken a rather polarised position when it comes to American affairs which seems to come straight out of the "democrat" playbook. You also infer that those who do not agree with your position on these subjects must be "influenced by Russian disinformation campaigns". Let me put a few things straight:

- as said I'm not an American

- ...and I do not want the extremely polarised political discourse from the U.S.A. to be exported more than it already is...

- ...so I disagree with the application of the 'MAGA' moniker to the current discourse on the Polish economy...

- ...nor do I see the "democratic" party as the "good" side versus the "bad" republicans or - if you dislike the d/r dichotomy the "non-MAGA" versus "MAGA". The "democrats" accuse the republicans of what they've been doing during the Obama and Biden regimes while the republicans accuse(d) the "democrats" of what they were doing during the Bush and Trump regimes. Pot, meet kettle. The result of all those shenanigans is that the populace got fed up with all the politicking and voted for a candidate who came from outside the political circus: Trump. This did not stop the politicking, it only made it worse so they voted for him again, and again. I suspect they'll keep on voting for candidates like him until they're fed up with the constant turmoil and vote for a "boring" candidate. I say let them, it is their country, we have our own share of problems here.

- With regard to the Russian invasion of Ukraine I'd like to see Putin pushed back over the original borders...

- ...but I also realise that Ukraine had and has its own share of problems with corruption so the country has quite a way to go once Putin (or whoever succeeds him once he happened to fall out of a window in his underground bunker) has been put in his place...

Now let's get back to discussing the Polish "wirtschaftswunder" - there'll be a better Polish term for that - and keep American politics where it belongs, in the U.S.A.


>You seem to assume that I'm an American?

No. What made you think that? Please cite.

I assumed you aren't. People here wouldn't describe MAGA/Democrat standoff as "cat fight".

>You're not an American either

I am. What made you think that? Please cite.

To repeat: I am Ukrainian-American. I've lived in the US for most of my life, and voted in the past 4 elections.

>but for some reason you seem to have taken over an awful lot of the "democratic" viewpoints.

Pardon me, I have not stated any "democratic viewpoints". Please cite the specific things I said you believe to be "democratic viewpoints".

>Those viewpoints are quite polarising whether you see this or not and they're largely based around the "democratic" attempt to gain the upper hand in American elections by creating an "us versus them" narrative

If you think it's the Democratic Party in the US that capitalizes on the "us versus them" narrative, you have a lot to learn.

> You also infer that those who do not agree with your position on these subjects must be "influenced by Russian disinformation campaigns".

No. What made you think that? Please cite.s

>and I do not want the extremely polarised political discourse from the U.S.A. to be exported

I'm writing from the US, on a US-based website, which you're welcome to not participate in discussions opinions from which you wish to not be "exported" to wherever you are.

Other than that, you really no say in what kind of ideas get "exported" on an open forum.

Please read the rules.

>nor do I see the "democratic" party as the "good"

Irrelevant.

> I disagree with the application of the 'MAGA' moniker to the current discourse on the Polish economy...

You are welcome to continue in your ignorance.

I gave quite a few solid reasons as to why that moniker is applicable; speaking from my experience of living in both Poland and the US, interacting with the conservatives in both countries, being directly affected by the politics in both of them, and being able to speak languages in both countries.

Your entire reasoning as to why you don't think "MAGA" is applicable to the anti-EU rural folks in Poland amounts to "I don't like Dems", which has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

At this point, I need to ask whether it'd be easier for you if I translated my words to Swedish, because you're not responding to anything I'm actually saying here.

If you feel the need to vocally disagree after reading my comments again, please cite the parts you find contentious, so that we could make sure that what you're hearing is what I'm saying (and avoid oopsies like "you're not American").

Thank you.


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>Many americans suffer from this

I'm a Ukrainian-American who's lived in Ukraine, Poland, and the US; have property/bank accounts in all three countries, and speak three languages and Russian.

The "Americans suffering from this" would be people saying what you just did.

Please read my other comment up the thread where I provide more context.

And please don't presume you have any idea on how others view the world.

>The only other point of reference is Hitler and his modern reincarnation - russians

Sure, let's just ignore the Muller's report which documents Russian collusion when discussing MAGA, let's ignore Russian invasion of Ukraine when discussing Poland, and let's ignore Russia's relationship with Orban, Fico, and PiS when discussing the anti-EU sentiment in the EU (particularly among rural voters).

That will surely give us an enlightened, non-US-centric and non-myopic view. /s


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>This is so debunked that I consider other opinions held by you as a sign they are wrong as well

"So debunked" by whom exactly?

Please cite which parts of this report[1] you believe are false.

Insofar as this discussion is concerned, I'll defer to the Cato institute, a conservative think tank. Quote:

"Mueller concluded that the Russians did interfere, Trump was aware of the interference, he benefited from and encouraged the interference – e.g., Don, Jr. was eager to get and use information on Hillary Clinton – and he didn’t report the interference to the FBI. "

That's the part pertinent to this discussion. Namely, that Russia did help MAGA in the US grow, and there's documented evidence of that.

Russia's influence on rural Polish conservatives in stoking the anti-Ukrainian and anti-EU sentiment, and their open meddling in the politics of EU countries supporting MAGA-like sentiments in Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland, is similarly well-documented.

I'm sorry that you appear to be triggered by seeing a reference to Muller's report.

The points I'm making still stand though, and I hope you'll find the strength to comprehend them in spite of your reflexes.

Thank you in advance.

[1] https://www.justice.gov/storage/report_volume2.pdf

[2] https://www.cato.org/blog/mueller-report-faqs


Typical salary for a senior dev is around 20-30k PLN per month, which translates to $65k-$100k per year (gross). Also, a lot of devs do a little bit of tax avoidance that is currently not persecuted, which allows them to pay total taxes below 20% on that amount. So, your take-home pay is $50k-$80k.

This website says Senior Java Developer is 20kPLN-27k PLN (64k USD per year after taxes) (employment contract) and 25k PLN-30k PLN if you agree to lose employee rights.

https://bulldogjob.com/it-report/salaries/java

30k PLN per month on employment contract would be 71k usd per year after taxes


That's a good salary, better than Romania on average. And if you also have lower prices (at least that's what I heard), even better then.

> Typical salary for a senior dev is around 20-30k PLN per month

Typical, yes, though it's possible to earn way more than that. Not that 20-30k PLN per month is bad, the average Polish salary is perhaps around 9k and the median around 7k.

20-30k PLN goes a long way in Poland. Some seven years ago, I was spending around 7k PLN a month, living in the beautiful Warsaw old town, 50 metres from Kolumna Zygmunta, eating out all the time, and generally felt I was living like a king. Good times!


It does go a long way, but note that 2019's 7k PLN is today's 11k (or 15k if you use the Big Mac index).

That is a decent salary! I guess it could be an option for me one day if I get tired of the US.

These were typical salaries 2+ years ago. Things changes substantially since. New hires earn less across the board, irrespective of experience.

Joining the EU meant giving up some measure of sovereignty, so they're living under a regulatory regime that's probably more extensive than it would be if Poland were independent.

Also, people like to complain.


I am a nerd who cared. Caring is not putting my food on the table though, delivering stuff is.

I still enjoy diving into documentation but AI has transformed how I work. I can quickly get code examples I can debug. I learn new things as sometimes AI generates approaches I haven't used before.


Most people who have been programming for a while should have those skills. If they don't then learning AI is not the issue but communication is.

I don't know, I would worried about learning anything from Ferrari F1 team. As they refuse to learn. If it wasn't for their OP engines, they would not have been competitive FOR MANY years.

Their race strategy has been sabotaging drivers for YEARS.

TIL, I am a health professional on the internet. If you need help with any health problems I am here. /s


I find it funny that it only prints the headlines from reddit, true reddiots only read the headlines and the comments.


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