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From what I see, shout-irc does not allow you to stay connected on IRC channels when you are offline or close your browser.


I just installed this and it appears that shout-irc does allow you to stay connected (at least it does when you login as a user)



This link has already been posted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10107833


(As of right now, 202 points and 34 comments)


No, journald has its own benefits. Creating an alternative to some software doesn't mean you have ill will towards it.


A compatible alternative to syslog would have been healthy. An incompatible that is the only thing properly supported by systemd is not.


I don't know why you're being downvoted. can someone enlighten me?


you're not allowed to dislike system-d nowadays.

seems like every time I make a valid point against systemd it's flagkilled instead of being replied to.


I've taken to lurking on #systemd in order to see when they sound the bells for an HN thread takeover.


systemd is 100% free software, unlink Windows. systemd has a command line interface unlike most Windows tools. And I don't know what is the Windows init system but I doubt it is similar to systemd. It's probably much closer to the Mac OS X init than Windows'.

Seriously, it does not make any sense to say that systemd is a "Windows" approach.


Not only is it Free Software, but LP was nice enough to make the entire thing accessible over RPC, so that non-free software could easily integrate with the OS at the lowest levels (PID1!), bypassing GPL/LGPL restrictions, and removing much of the reason to write Free Software on Linux at all.

How this isn't worse than Tivo-ization (the reason the GPLv3 was written!), now how RMS/Moglen aren't screaming about this, I'll never know.


Well, traditional UNIX is also accessible over RPC usable by non-free software. They're just known as pipes.

Spawning processes and communicating over pipes is a UNIX tradition and also lets you sidestep the GPL. Should RMS be screaming about that too?


Did you really just compare systemd (giving non-free software a PID1 GPL backdoor) to Unix pipes?

Maybe you can explain what a "derivative work" means to you, in relation to the GPL?




Correction on the title: this activist is a girl, so it should say "on on her car", not his.


Do so many languages really not use gendered pronouns? Seems I'm seeing this happen all the time. Doesn't it cause extra confusion in the native languages?


I can't speak for Spanish, but in at least in Finnish there wont be confusion, because pronouns are used to refer to the previously named/described person:

"A man went missing last night. He was wearing a red shirt." "Mary had a vacation last month. She travelled to Spain."

Of course there could be situations where the description doesn't tell you the persons gender, but those are rare and the gender likely didn't matter anyway (as otherwise it would have been stated). Plus since you don't need to use gendered words, no one will know even if you mistake a woman for a man or vice versa.


Is anaphora-resolution really always as simple as attaching to the most recent person, in Finnish?

I'd bet it's not always that simple, in any spoken language.


I guess there may be some other cases that I can't think of, but the point remains the same; using the same pronoun for "he" and "she" (and "it" in spoken language) doesn't really cause confusion, because that's how the language works. People have been speaking it without having separate pronouns for a long time, and the language has evolved accordingly.

I took a look at a few of the top articles on Helsinki times right now (yes, those don't represent the spoken language very well, but I doubt it matters for this purpose) and some of their top comments. In the articles themselves almost every instance of "hän" (=he/she) referred to someone who had been described or named in the previous sentence. Only in one occasion the person was named in the previous paragraph (there were no other people named in between). In the comments there were some cases with no name/description, but they were commenting on a story about a person (unabomber in this case), so there was no ambiguity there.


No, it doesn't. If the activist were male, it would say "Un activista" vs "Una activista", so the gender of the person is also explicit.


For a male activist, it would be "un activisto". Sorry for being pedantic.


That's nonsense.


So Google Translate is just being terrible again? Figures.


Its not that seldom that subject or object of the sentence are gendered, but the pronouns are gender-neutral. As the english translation of "activist" is gender-neutral you would need quite sophisticated software to not lose that information in the translation process.


Additionally, in French, possessive pronouns agree with the nouns they modify, so the word for "car" would receive a feminine pronoun. A quick search leads me to believe that Spanish is the same.

Perhaps Google Translate is taught to over-correct by user modifications and substitutes the male possessive pronoun in its place.


Because the clients need to get the list of nodes from somewhere.

You can read more about how this works at this URL: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt


just because they need a list of nodes doesn't mean they need to be hardcoded into the client. the other option of course would be to fetch the list remotely.


From what? A directory directory server?


From any peer? If the list is signed by a majority set of keys then it doesn't matter how it gets distributed.


Isn't finding a peer the original problem?


Bitcoin does this by storing a list of DNS hostnames, run by a set of the maintainers, that return periodically-updated lists of peers.

Previously, it also joined an IRC channel and got the list of hostnames from all of the other users in the channel.


Isn't that just replacing hardcoded IP addresses with hardcoded DNS hostnames? Not much of an improvement.


ah, point taken. i didn't think too hard about this apparently. if they had a host serving a list of trusted DAs, that host would be just as valuable a target.


Any Tor node could be a peer to distributed a signed piece of data.


Yes, but how does one locate a tor node without a directory server?


Maybe like Bittorrent DHT? The client could keep a cache of other known nodes. You could share them on pastebin versus having them b only hard coded. You could preloaded a hundred peer nodes, instead of 9 master nodes. It doesn't strictly eliminate the problem, but it makes it less likely that one or two governments can just shut it all down.


This is kind of how i2p does it. Currently i2p has like 6 "reseed servers" which bootstrap you into finding some other peers. Once you are connected to the network you then can contact "floodfill" servers, which are essentially a distributed form of the directory authorities. Floodfills are autonomously chosen routers on the network, and distribute other nodes to whoever asks.


This exit node is now flagged as BadExit: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/8361A794DFA231D863E109...


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