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You have no idea how depression works


Thank you for saying this. You are brave and beautiful.


Fuck you. I'm out.


Clearly, I've offended you. But I don't know why?


The tone of your comment is fawning and is easily confused with trolling, and "brave" is a word commonly used contrarily to indicate disdain for someone's actions. That, or you're actually just trolling.


Doesn't make sense because Squirrelmail is also written in PHP and it's pretty solid. The next version will use HTTP-only cookies to further harden against attacks.


do you know of any particular reason that wasn't put in to place years ago? concern for legacy browsers at all costs? it sounds snarky, but it's a genuine question - I think I've set my apps to be http-only cookies for a while now, and am wondering why someone would only get around to it in 2014.


Spiritual sequel to SL, so this time the flying dicks are to be worshipped?


If a joke about the spiritual thing was needed, I would have worked in the second life angle. Looks promising.


I'd tell them how horrible the "modern" laptop is and how we'd have to turn things around in order to prevent wasting away all that research for decades to come.

I'd show them this video: http://vimeo.com/71278954


Does it still come with mail and bit torrent clients?


No. IRC and RSS/Atom also not supported.


Then they should call it Opera 3.24, or -1 and count backwards from hereon.


Opera Mail is a separate download, still using the old Opera 12 code base. I use it because I have multiple email accounts and it allows me to use them all as a unified inbox.

However, it's still at version 1.0. It hasn't received a single update since it was released and it has a few annoying bugs. It's still the best desktop email client though.


I will never understand why they didnt do an calender and pitch the mail (which was excellent) and that at enterprise users.


Windows actually supports using / as a path delimiter. If a program is (following the robustness principle) liberal in what it accepts (both / and \\) and strict in what it sends (just /), it'll work (barring any other issues).


There exists "gjs" and "js" ("smjs" in Debian), both of which are being maintained.


What are these so-called "fast lanes"?


> The really amazing thing here is that they've disentangled IE from the base Windows

Calling bull. MSIE has never been "entangled" with the OS and this has in fact been proven in court ( http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/f2600/2613g.pdf pages 283 through 288 are especially noteworthy). The integration was merely a scam to defeat Netscape.

Here's a bunch of standalone versions from 1996 to 2002 (made by MSFT themselves) which can all run side by side: http://browsers.evolt.org/browsers/archive/ie/win32/

On the same site, you can find MSIE for HP-UX and Solaris.


IE has been a system-level service in Windows for a long time. Naturally, you could boot the kernel without it, but a bunch of included Windows software (by Microsoft, as part of the distribution) and even system libraries rely on parts of IE.

Even now, there are weird dependencies on IE components that you wouldn't expect: http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/you-got-your-web...

It's quite possible it was all bullshit at the time of the antitrust case, but it's been true for quite a while now. In practice, 'removing' IE from windows at this point would just mean removing iexplore.exe, because literally every native .dll and COM .dll bundled with IE is probably leveraged by some application or component somewhere in the OS. The whole IE object model and programming interface are documented on the web and exposed, so there are programs using them - Valve's Steam game management/storefront app used to use it before they moved to their own embedded version of WebKit.


> In practice, 'removing' IE from windows at this point would just mean removing iexplore.exe

And this is exactly what happens if you don't install IE with Browser Choice in the EU. The rendering engine and all the DLLs are still installed, It's just iexplore.exe which isn't.


I has been, what, 15 years from those court proceedings. Don't you think it is possible the MSIE has been tied to the operating system in subsequent releases: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8?


Sure it's possible, but then it wouldn't be so amazing that they had un-done it. Microsoft was, in those court proceedings, claiming that being integrated with the OS was a very fundamental part of IE that was not trivially undone.


AFAIK nothing much has changed since these days, but MS did add a option to remove the Internet Explorer directory in Program Files in Vista and note that HTML Help for example already depended on IE components even back in 1997.


Say "Torvald" one more time.


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