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Cool, but there are people who like to look at data, like Wh/km and efficiencies at different temperatures etc.

Funny thing I wanted to point out though, you sound like one of those people who say "I will buy a car that runs on gas, I've never wanted a vehicle that runs on electricity and my next one won't either... Not if I have anything to say about it".

I feel like I've seen so many of those comments lately... I want to ask why?

It's like me saying something like "my phone doesn't have a screen. I've always had an analog connection and I've never felt the need to have a digital screen and any smart apps on my phone... Etc etc not if I have anything to say about it."

Or perhaps even something like not wanting an automatic transmission because a manual transmission is the only way to go lol..


That's clearly not the point here.

The parent isn't rooting for ICE, he's rooting for having a vehicle that doesn't stream data to the outside.

There is nothing that mandates that a vehicle -whatever its technology-, must send all its data to external servers.

I, and many others, want to have the right to possess a car that isn't relying on external connections to work, and doesn't send all its data out.

It's more akin to wanting a TV that's not connected online. Some people like the added features of a smart TV, but some just want a dumb screen that doesn't sell their viewing habits, or screenshots of what's on the screen to third-parties.


a big FSD youtuber (100k subs, Dirty Tesla) Lives outside the city on gravel roads.. .and it seems to do ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt56idWv9rw&t=10s&ab_channel...


your username says it all. ugh is what I always think when someone complains about roadtrips.

I personally do not have kids, but I love roadtripping my Tesla. With my ICE car, I used to drive as fast as possible, as long as possible thinking that's the way, but I'd also end up so burnt out after 8 or 9 hours of driving.

I'm going to make a 12 hour drive this weekend, it'll end up being around 13 hours with a Tesla, but my Fiancé and I are making a list cool things we'll do when we make the stops, and we'll actually enjoy making the trip over the 13 hours. Each stop will be around 15-20mins every 3 hours which is perfect for getting a stretch, snacking, or going to the washroom.

I'll also have the newest updated FSD11 for the highway which has been a large improvement over the previous autopilot on highways - the biggest for me is that it now bias's over to the left (or right), if I'm passing a large semi (or if the semi is passing me)


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