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Is that even remotely in the real world?


Edit: I missed the society part from the original argument. The value doesn’t need to be to society but to some people somewhere in order to succeed.

Of course it is! Show me a successful business that doesn’t give genuine value to their target audience.

The target audience may not be who you think it is, but you had best believe that someone is getting value or else the business would fail.


You will most likely fail but there are examples of companies, like Groupon, that created negative value for their customers.


Tobacco companies. Net value is higher risk of serious illness.


Fraud seem to be a pretty successful business model.

I suppose you have to at least temporarily appear to be providing value, before your casino leaves your customer bankrupt.


I don't believe in reincarnation but had a phase of religious study. It's generally not a 1-to-1 mapping of you die and come back as a human. Depending on the religious school of thought "you" can spend some finite time in some afterlife (good or bad) then come back as some organism, not necessarily human. Also accounting for continued biological evolution may not be homo sapien if your "soul" comes back 1000 years later. Can't say I believe in reincarnation at all.


There is actually a hierarchy of reincarnation with enlightenment being at the top.

You can think of it like a mouse is lower form of life and if he works on his karma he can reincarnate as a racoon and then then if the racoon works on himself he can reincarnate as a monkey all the way up until enlightenment.

The animal right before reincarnation as an enlightened being is of course man.

But do you know what being is right before man?

Woman.

True story. Not even joking here. If a woman works on her karma, she supposedly can reincarnate as a man.


Is that the case with this specific article?


That’s not how trust works.


You blew up a 30 year friendship over an...analogy?


I didn't! Someone else did it to me. I was trying desperately not to.

(edit: This is the kind of stuff I think my friends are watching and being informed by [0] as it was what they are posting in our common areas.)

[0]: https://youtu.be/ro130m-f_yk


Why does it upset you if they disagree with you on this?


It's not that they disagree with me, as there were many things we agreed on. I have read over it and it seems that they don't respect what I believe so much that their example of how they felt was this angry shouting man. But again, I was not the person who ended the friendship.

In short, I'm upset that a person I thought was a friend disrespected my opinion about something so much, she stopped being my friend.


It doesn't define you. It does define how well you can provide food for your family and a roof over your head. I have been completely dead broke but I'm single and live very frugally with a roommate. I'm less worried about AI taking all our jobs and more worried about the turmoil as it takes the "good ones" first. Great if you are a capital owner saving on head count, not great if you are a worker.


OP is more on the extreme side but doesn't sound too crazy depending on where someone is at in their life. Obviously if you have a kid you can't do this so it's irrelevant.


>I can't figure out why the media is doing such a terrible job covering this

"It's a big club and you ain't in it"


Wow me too, glad I wasn't the only one


I am diagnosed with Narcolepsy, N1. It's a complete nightmare honestly. The main issue is I get TOO much REM sleep and basically almost zero NREM 3 sleep.

I enter a vivid dream state within seconds of closing my eyes when sleeping. Sleep paralysis almost every day multiple times a night. Pure utter terrifying demonic nightmares and hallucinations to the point where at its worst I was too afraid to even try and sleep.

I've basically been chronically sleep deprived for about the last 10 to 15 years but was only recently diagnosed a couple years ago.

It's very debilitating at 33 years old and there is only one real drug that actually addresses the issue. Xyrem, really GHB, which just forces your brain to get deep sleep. It isn't a cure, but it's the closest thing we got right now.

The disease has basically ruined my life but Im thankful to be where Im at. A lot of others with the disease aren't so lucky. Especially if you have no access to any real medicine.

Your brain will just continue to fry itself without the needed restorative sleep.


As a top comment I want to throw in additional info to help balance what it is like. I also have narcolepsy. Not everyone who has narcolepsy has cataplexy, which is the sudden paralysis or sleeping in response to emotional stimuli. But, everyone with narcolepsy has a sleep cycle where deep sleep is entirely or mostly missing.

Not everyone has vivid dreaming, but hallucinations of vision and sound while not sleeping are also possible. Life with narcolepsy and no medication is a life of great difficulty, as it's essentially sleep deprivation. You can't just sleep it off.

Diagnosis often coincides with having been sick, but it's not the virus that is the problem. It's the immune system. It really is an invisible problem to others. My own family had a hard time accepting it.

Most people would be surprised to learn I have it, but medication helps a lot. I also still take at least one nap a day. The medication administered for daytime use is stimulant class drugs, and this causes being tired as well with higher heart rates. But it's better than no medication. I am super thankful for medication that helps. Xyrem is such a simple drug and I frown on Jazz pharma squeezing every $$ they can from it. But from a treatment standpoint, I have a life again.


What does it mean for your life in terms of doing things that require durable concentration? For example, driving a car? Can you do that without risking falling asleep?

It seems like such a cruel disease. I hope there will be better remedies ahead.


It really makes everything 100x more difficult. Especially in a cognitively intensive field. Completely killed my aspirations of being a Lawyer. I simply just could not keep up. Graduated with a terrible undergrad GPA. I was just so tired I couldn't really use my brain. Then basically limped over the finish line even though before my symptoms started I could crush reading materials.

So it can definitely be a barrier for certain career choices. Luckily working in software remotely has afforded me a lot of accomodations. I truly don't know what other field I could be in that would simultaneously be flexible enough to accomodate my disability and also lucrative. Im glad I live now! I would have probably ended up Homeless if I was born 60 years ago.

I'm medicated now so a lot of my symptoms are not as bad as they used to be. I am able to drive and no longer suffer from "sleep attacks" but there was a point before my diagnosis when I was so tired I could fall asleep while driving and not even notice. Very dangerous and a very scary experience. Most days I had to take naps every 90 minutes or so and self medicated with approximately 1g of caffeine a day.


what kinds of accommodations? I’m surprised SWE was more flexible considering the cognitive demands


Generally I have to split up my work hours. Very hard for me to wake up in the morning and be productive by a 9 to 10am stand-up. I mostly cant start work until 2 or 3pm most days. Also naps. Scheduled and on my calendar as busy time that I cannot be contacted. When it comes to prod support I make it clear that if there are days Im struggling harder than normal, I may need a backup

Unironically for a lot of narcoleptics we can suffer from delayed circadian rhythm disorders as well so interestingly my brain is more awake at say 11pm than 11am.


Like naps when you need them. Remote jobs are maybe more likely with SWE.


Thanks for sharing that. It’s one of those conditions, like Tourette’s or OCD that has an almost comic reputation in popular portrayals. More people need to understand what it really is.

I hope you manage to get better treatment in the future.


> Pure utter terrifying demonic nightmares and hallucinations to the point where at its worst I was too afraid to even try and sleep.

If you are still suffering from nightmares, lucid dreaming[1] can be practiced and learned. I doubt mastering lucid dreaming is easy, but even without nightmares, it is its own incentive.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream#Suggested_applicat...


Currently we are looking into group buying Danavorexto on a small server I belong to .

Should be great for narcolepsy


Thanks for sharing this with us. Honestly, I had no idea that your condition could be so debilitating and present so many issues with living a normal life. Eye opening, to me at least.

I hope that this discovery will help eventually find ways to mitigate your symptoms.


Xyrem is not the only treatment. If I were you I would look into the following peptides: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta-sleep-inducing_peptide And most importantly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epitalon

As a complementary, I would take glycine 3gramm 5 night per week, which has very low tolerance building and if you watch the studies is extremely potent at increasing sleep efficiency. I would also consider Agomelatine. Also I would take potent antioxidants with long half life in order to reduce sleep deprivation toxicity (e.g. ALCAR 2g) and NAC. Note that alcar can compensate many neuroreceptors downregulations. Although antioxidants unlike above recommandations are for chronic health and won't likely help your perceived acute sleep. Finally I would take a potent synaptotrophic in order to reverse large amounts of past neurotoxicity. Taking magnesium l threonate reverse IQ-age by 9.6 years.

BTW is baclofen as effective as GHB? If so then do it as GHB is neurotoxic through paradoxal excitotoxicity, a byproduct of agonizing GHB receptors. Although it's possible that this toxicity can be reduced by taking glutamate antagonists such as memantine

Oh and since you say you have too much REM sleep.. You have to understand that this excess relative to most humans might be needed for you as a way to compensate for other biological deficits, although maybe not. If you wanna try an original approach, there are drugs that specifically decrease REM, for example IIRC the benign antidepressant moclobemide reduce REM sleep by 1 hour. Although it improve other patterns of sleep (such as probability to wake up) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2148341/

Oh and now that I think about it, you mention highly vivid dreams: Highly vivid dreams can be caused notably by two things: 1) a too high amount of choline. It is well known (and every lucid dreamer try it) that taking e.g. Huperzine A, which increase choline levels by decreasing its catabolism, induce vivid dreams. It's possible that your metabolism produce too much choline or catabolise it too slowly. However be very careful experimenting with choline blockers/catabolisers as choline is necessary for cognition (a nootropic) and is a very important neuroprotectant especially for myelin. Therefore ideally try to measure your choline levels (via urine tests?) Choline antagonists exists but dose can easily become toxic, as usual everything is poison, nothing is poison, it's the dose imbalance that makes the poison.

The second main cause of vivid dreams is: Special sleep phases (called ~hypnoagogic) there is one when we enter sleep and one when we exit sleep. At those transitory levels can be experienced extremely vivid dreams because the brain is in too high wake up state. I have personally experienced 3 times those special dreams while waking up, I was mind blown by the realism of the hallucination.

Note a lower priority atypical sleep promoter is oleamide.

Essentially though I would consider taking eugeroics during the day such as armodafinil or Vyvanse.

Note: everytime you try polypharmacy (combining multiple drugs) titrate doses very slowly, especially the ones that have similar action mechanisms, e.g glycine is a downer like ghb hence slow titration is very important.

BTW I'm sure you did it but diagnose for sleep apnea.


It is my understanding that narcolepsy is a diagnosis of a sleep disorder, and not as a result of symptoms. Sleep studies are required and they rule out things like sleep apnea.

I have narcolepsy.

As my neurologist would say, self-reporting of sleep quality is magic and voodoo until the sleep study shows there is no deep sleep.

There is nothing else like Xyrem in terms of what makes a life-changing difference.


Sleep paralysis multiple times a night too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30435267


Kiwifarms was not a 'nazi' forum, it's so easy to tell who never actually lurked there or did enough due diligence to actually investigate for themselves what the site actually hosted lmfao


It's just a coincidence that there are so many threads with titles like 'what is the final solution to the _____ question?'


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