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I don’t understand why folks mention AC games first when this kind of thing is brought up, KCD is not perfect but much better for historical accuracy.

To be clear, they're taking about an "edutainment mode" feature, and not the standard game with its narrative about templar-aliens.

Also fun fact, he advised Mao on agriculture during the Great Leap Forward, using rough estimates of photosynthetic efficiency to calculate potential crop yields. Those estimates were far removed from reality and indirectly contributed to the Great Chinese Famine, while other countries were benefiting from the success of the Green Revolution.

He didn't advise Mao directly. He published his "rough estimate" in China Youth Daily on June 16, 1958 as 《粮食亩产量会有多少?》. It's possible, though unconfirmed, that Mao (or his secretary) read this article and was influenced. But yeah, the math was bad and off by an order of magnitude. Even geniuses can't be right all the time and I guess he was quite irresponsible for publishing a hand-wavy back-of-the-envelope estimate like that.

Qian gave a talk about agriculture at the 6th Supreme State Conference in 1956, Mao directly talked to Qian about his article in 1958 '你在青年报上写的那篇文章我看了,陆定一同志很热心,到处帮你介绍。你在那个时候敢于说四万斤的数字,不错啊。你是学力学的,学力学而谈农业,你又是个农学家。', while later Qian admitted it was theoretically only and he miscalculated, he probably did it out of modesty and he didn't say shit about his impact on tens of millions of death whatsoever. In fact, Mao's secretary at the time was Li Rui, who was a pragmatist and quite liberal during his lifetime. He questioned Mao's sanity, and Mao just blamed Qian.

Thanks for the correction. That sucks then. Dude should have stayed in his lane making rockets instead of commenting on agriculture.

It's a compelling example of the common phenomenon where a certified genius in one field makes a blunder by attempting to reason from first principles to analyze a problem in another field. Not that such things never work; there are success stories too, but it's not guaranteed.

Central planning and heterogeneous large scale distributed agriculture don't mix.

That seems like an oversimplification of what happened to Soviet Russia and China under Mao.

I grew up in USSR, and wrt agriculture it isnt oversimplification, it is exactly how it was there. It was the key factor resulting in the food shortages, and that was a major factor in the USSR collapse.

Central planning and agriculture don't mix.

China seems to be doing OK these days, are they no longer planning centrally?

This is probably just him trying to survive Mao's insanity

Wrong. Mao didn’t have full control at the time. Before the Lushan Conference in 1959, China had a system of collective leadership, and Mao more or less respected it. Mao was always insane, even before the Seven Thousand Cadres Conference and the Cultural Revolution, but Qian was definitely not under pressure, he simply enjoyed his alliance with Mao so much that his last words were: ‘毛泽东思想活着,中国就永远年轻’ (‘As long as Maoism lives, China will remain forever young.’)

You might be right, I don't actually know Qian that well, but this idea of collective leadership misses the point that Mao had all the power and backing of the military/peasants.

> That was a scandal inside China, and it was immediately reversed.

Tell it to the people in Wuhan, and Shanghai, Urumqi, and other cities that had lockdowns. I was in Shanghai in 2022, I was confined to my apartment for nearly 3 months, you couldn't be more wrong.


Shanghai was locked down as a health measure during a major outbreak in the middle of a pandemic that killed millions of people around the world.

Lockdowns were done in many places in the world, including in Taiwan. I get that you're angry about being inconvenienced, but you weren't living in a totalitarian state. You were inconvenienced because there was a massive public health emergency, and the government had the choice of either locking down one city or letting the virus spread to the rest of the country and kill millions of people.


God I wish I could just block you. So called inconveniences in the name of so called massive public health emergency? First of all it was the Omicron variant, we knew its mortality rate is low, second it did spread to the rest of the country by the end of 2022 and killed millions of people, so what was the fucking point? If you have to downplay all suffering by calling them inconveniences, I guess there's no one could convince you anyway, you better hope it doesn't happen to you.

Anyway here are few links and videos for those curious what happened

The Initium's timeline of the whole thing https://campaign.theinitium.com/20220506-mainland-covid-shan...

A viral video on Shanghai lock down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBdOXwdBn5s

Forced transfer to Fangcang quarantine center without testing positive https://youtu.be/NQfmOTB_naA

Spoiled food in groceries https://www.sohu.com/a/539911328_118622

Community effort to collect the names of those who died, whether it is covid or othe medical conditions or suicide(the og Airtable is down) https://github.com/augustuscaesarr/runrunrun/blob/main/%E6%9...

Here's a fun one, a fake app for Covid Health Code, which was required to enter any public space and private business and even your home https://ilovexjp.pages.dev/

And it is fit to finish with Shanghai protesters shouting Xi Jinping Step Down, Dec 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAX8UO4ZQA


The Omicron variant killed more people worldwide (including in the US) than any other variant.

You were personally subject to quarantine measures in early 2022, and that irks you. On the hand, if you spent the pandemic in Shanghai, you were more free to go about your life than people were in the West for most of 2020-2021.

None of this is "totalitarianism."


Do not fucking reply to me, this is harassment.


You're so soft


lol great way to lose an argument.


What argument? It was just contradiction, he didn't care how much evidences and points I brought. 3 months of trauma and depression and it is just merely irk in his eyes. It was just an unfunny, callous version monty python's sketch.


How totalitarian is exactly totalitarian? I asked chatgpt and it gave few points

- Control goes beyond politics

- A single, all-encompassing ideology

- No meaningful private sphere

- Mass mobilization and propaganda

- Extensive surveillance and repression

Seems like China is ticking all the boxes.


> No meaningful private sphere

Have you ever been to China? Everyone has their own private lives. It's no different than any other country in that respect.

In China, you rarely interact with the government in daily life. Most people are just living their lives.


Honestly thought you were listing traits that the US has now till the last line.


In what universe does the US not have "meaningful private sphere"?


Meta, Google and co control all your private data. GDPR is a european thing not an american or chinese thing.

CIA/FBI have their own massive data centers (see snowden) inkl. their own older bigger palantr style software.

Elon Musk was able to connect a Starlink server to your data and no one cared. He and his Duche aeh sry doge baby boys were able to access and download all Social Security Numbers.

If someone knows were Putin and all the other world leaders are at any given moment, I would bet its USA first than China if even because i don't think China cares that much about it than USA does.

And everyone out of scope of this, lives probably in some rural USA town were no one cares for you at all anyway, but thats the same thing as in China.


Really laugh my ass off, so much whataboutism and American centrism when the debate is whether China is trustworthy on AI. Given your ignorance you should go and do your research, but I will help you a bit here.

- Control goes beyond politics

state corporation monopoly, 党支部 in private sector, crackdowns on NGOs and charities.

- A single, all-encompassing ideology

Party led, mandarin speaking Han Chinese nationalism, blended with Little Pink's unquestionable support for Xi and the party.

- No meaningful private sphere

社区网格员

- Mass mobilization and propaganda

We saw mobilizations on Chinese social media, attacking celebrities who don't openly say anything the party wants them to say. Mobilization in real life is rare though, cos it had shown it can backfire.

- Extensive surveillance and repression

Do I really need to explain this?


Which comment was this supposed to be a reply to?


You forgot

- No freedom of religion


Dear flagger, did I say something incorrect?


Given the current best open-weight model (Kimi 2.6) is 1T A32B, I wonder how long we’ll have to wait for hardware like strix halo or gdx spark to be able to run it.


The bigger the [dense] models the more inference tends to take, it seems pretty linear.

In that sense, how long you'd need to wait to get say ~20tk/s .. maybe never.

(save a significant firmware update / translation layer)


For 1T Q4 - 1 token generated per every ~500GB memory read. So you'll need something like ~10TB/s memory for 20t/s. This is 8x5090 speed area and 16x5090 size area. HBM4 will bring us close to something really possible in home lab, but it will cost fortune for early adopters.

Speculative decoding/DFlash will help with it, but YMMV.

Edit: Missed a part that this is A32B MoE, which means it drastically reduces amount of reads needed. Seems 20 t/s should be doable with 1TB/s memory (like 3090)


One-child policy did not die, it just morphed into Three-child policy, still a form of family planning, and still would probably fine people for having more than three kids.


I've been trying the Q4_K_M version, and sometimes it gets stuck in a loop. Gemma 4 doesn’t have this issue.


This has happened before with quantizations and other backends (ones not used by the research lab). Give it a week, download latest versions of everything, and try again.


I'm having the same issues, the more I use it. The repetition penalty doesn't seem to help.

I get some really amusing 'reflective' responses, but I think it needs a bit more cooking. Maybe I'll try another variant.


perhaps increasing repitition_penalty might be helpful


I always shoot 12 grains per pound, it usually gets me around 150-160fps, marginal weather is where the fun begins.


Try instinctive aerial shooting with spiral flu-flus.


Yeah, too easy.


And the best way for Earth is we all migrate to Mars aboard Elon Musk's spaceship.


If you're going to live underground(and you'd have to on Mars) you might as well do it here, at the bottom of the ocean, or if you're feeling particularily ambitious - even on the moon. There is literally zero advantage to doing it on Mars, except for the achievement.


What's the difference? All have to live under central planning, all have to live with hubris of the rich and elites, at least Mars sounds way cooler than living in cities.


If you think Musk doesn't want central planning, you're sorely misunderstanding his point of view.

Musk wants to be a founding father. And just as the OG founding fathers, his problem isn't necessarily with the centralization part in general, but with the centralizing being done by others. There's a reason the original American voters were all white land owning men (and in some cases, slave owning men!).


I agree with your point but you guys really have to take a look at what I was replying to and was I being serious at all.


Oooops :-D


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