For the life of me I can't get their comment out of my head. It's just so ridiculous that I can't figure out what their point even is.

I think their point is that one should never pick up a flash bang grenade. Especially one that has been fired at you and is about to explode.

I think it’s a pretty good life lesson to follow. Both not to be someone in a position to fire them and to not be throwing them back.

Seems like one of many “don’t do stupid high risk things” rules like avoiding base jumping or Johannesburg at night.

Remind me to not be anywhere near you in a crowd. It'd piss me off to no end if the last thing I saw and had to waste my last seconds of life thinking about was "They're just going to stare until it blows u....."

If you have something that looks like it explodes land next to you in a crowd, and you do nothing simply because you think you deserve it (not talking about freezing up or just ignorant to what it is), you're a morally bankrupt coward that also deserves a share of the blame for harm done to anyone around you.

I certainly wouldn't stare at it until it exploded. I would run away as fast as I could.

It's odd that you think the exclusive options are 1) do nothing; 2) pick up and throw away

Of course, it's extremely unlikely I'd be in any crowd with you. Because we are likely very far apart geographically. And I work to avoid any crowds that may involve flash bang grenades thrown into them. So far, I have an excellent success ratio and expect it to stay steady.

I think kids are seeing videos of people throwing these and, of course, only the successful videos make it to their feeds. As the unsuccessful ones are bloody enough to get filtered out.

Your comment seems a bit hostile and ill willed as there are many who become shell shocked in these situations and freeze up. This doesn't make it "morally bankrupt." It just makes them human.

Good luck with your moral high horse and being so superior. I hope you retain all your digits.

I think you, also, are misunderstanding why their comment is such a ridiculous thing to say.

I certainly may be. It doesn't seem ridiculous to me. I've read through all the follow on comments and aside from people saying it's ridiculous, I don't get why others think it so.

So you're just that much of a badass?

Yes, teenagers tend to be pretty stupid but... do you think if a grenade was thrown at you that you'd react rationally?

Yes, I think I would react pretty rationally- run away or duck and cover. Zero chance I pick it up. And I was a super stupid and irrational teen. (And am still rather stupid and irrational)

When I was 14 I used to think I could shoot a kamehameha if I tried hard enough. Even then I would have made fun of people thinking they'd know what to do when a fucking grenade was thrown at them.

Are you still 14? When I was 14 there were situations where tear gas grenades were thrown in the city where I went to school (Amsterdam) in the context of squatter riots. I did my best to avoid these, never felt the need to play edge lord and join the mob, don a keffiyeh and shout inane phrases. I did do plenty of 'stupid' things but picking up live grenades was just too damn stupid. The Darwin Award was still decades away but had I known the term I'd have applied it to those who do such things whether they're 14 or 41. If you really need to get rid of the thing you at most kick it away - also risky - but best just to move away from it until it detonates. I knew that at 14 and I still know it. Didn't you? Don't you?

This conversation isn't about tear gas grenades.

The conversation is about rioters and those who confront them. Whether it is tear gas grenades, flashbangs, smoke grenades, stun grenades or any other non-lethal weapon is besides the point. It is about suffering the consequences when you pick up a live piece of ordnance.

and on top of that, this is what a rational reaction gets them

https://bsky.app/profile/thenewarab.bsky.social/post/3myb2ze...

Say more please!

I hope you watch the movie and can eventually look back on this comment.

SPOILERs kinda: Notably, it's all in the presentation and form of everything that went on. There were about ten different moments in the packed theater where something was said or happened where the entire audience was... silent. tense. I've never felt that sort of palpable and shared tension anywhere in my life like that.

I think I would have had this position prior to seeing the movie. After seeing it last night, I'm 100% inclined to do everything in my power to not spoil the experience. It's truly, truly that wild.

To others out there wondering, I offer the counter-perspective that this “twist” is not nearly as profound or even unexpected as folk are making it seem.

I have no skin in this game, but: friend, are you okay? You're acting like an incredibly weird jerk.

Chassipodes

Chassae.

So you're saying we're all fucked and there's nothing we can do?

I think we currently are - but not because of online ads. :-)

My main concern is supply chain attacks. I'm afraid, the frequency and sophistication of such attacks will only increase, thanks to really powerful LLMs. From there - to running keyloggers and stealing your bank credentials etc.

I think I've sent this template before:

"But not because of <industry I am employed by>"

"in-part because of ads" seems more reasonable, tbh.

When I worked at an adtech company almost ten years ago, this sort of shit was the exact concern of me and my colleagues. We've had time to do better but guess we're just fucked.