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We spent hours at the local one. Picked up lots of parts and gear when I suppose they would have rather us bought their relabeled Realistic stuff. In junior high helped the 5th grade teacher with his network of CoCo 2s that used a CoCo 3 as a "file server" via a rotary dial to download courseware through the cassette interface. I wrote a fraction math trainer in BASIC for him to use with the students. He was still using it when I was in high school.

> network of CoCo 2s that used a CoCo 3 as a "file server" via a rotary dial to download courseware through the cassette interface

Are you serious? That's fkn brilliant!


Absolutely, https://youtube.com/watch?v=YMOMH-SXcVk

It didn't push to the computers; we loaded the program from floppy to the CoCo 3 and then for each CoCo 2 manually executed a cassette load from the CoCo 3 via the rotary link, but it worked and was much cheaper than equipping each client with its own storage.


Palm Pilots! Brad Templeton once sent me his business card that turned out to be "You Have Been Hacked." Very funny.

For those as confused as I was, the BASIC as written will not run on a C64 (two immediate notes: BASIC 2.0 doesn't have labels, and a variable like STATS would be illegal because it clashes with the status word ST). This only works in their custom IDE which "compiles" (read "adds line numbers, alters names and tokenizes") it.

To be fair, this isn't that different from things we'd do back in the day.

I use to write BBS software in BASIC on the C64, and one of the things we'd do is use a "compiler" that would do some optimizations. What this allowed was being able to write a program too big to actually run, but the optimized version of it could.

I wish I could share more details and be less hand-wavy... but it turns out the 80's were a long time ago and I just haven't given it much thought since then (at least until I saw your comment).


Computer magazines of the era also did that with C64 listings because they were such a pain to type as is. They usually distributed a tool to type your program in first, and then published much more legible and plain text (non-PETSCII) code listings instead.

RGC Basic: https://retrogamecoders.com/rgc-basic/

"Commodore BASIC–style interpreter written in C, but with modern conveniences."


Yeah seeing GOSUB and no line numbers was an instant warning light.

I had briefly thought that C64 could use variables with GOTO/GOSUB. Sinclair BASIC could do that for example.

None of those are 6502-based, though. I think that's why OP referenced the SX-64.


Correct. I didn't mean to give the impression that CPU was common amongst them, rather just quickly sketching out form-factor evolution.

EDIT: mentioning the Apple IIc (and later IIgs) as was done else-thread would've been more on-topic.


Beat the heck out of dragging a 1702, a 1541 and a C64 around, though. I have three and they made regular trips to vintage fests because they were easy to set up. They can easily be connected to more drives or a bigger screen. Their only major drawback, and this is a big one, is that you can fry the SID if you plug in the external monitor with the power on. I did that once to my horror, and so have others.


I've only seen one in person and it was at one of the first The Gathering demo parties back in the 90's...


> nor correlate it with their other patients' data.

Halting that would pretty much be the end of public health analysis or real-world work on medication effectiveness/adverse reactions. We do a lot of work with deidenitifed data to find health patterns in populations.


I agree. One of the things this debate reflects is that societies really do need substantial trust: I want to trust that if my healthcare data is aggregated, then it will actually be used to serve society (and me).

In practice, data is often aggregated and then used to deprive some folks of healthcare, or sold to a pharma company below cost, with the pharma company then turning around and maximizing drug profits, where the drug was developed from the underpriced public data.


Maybe the law needs to be more like code and less up to the whims of whatever judicial interests are present at the time.

Tracing code manually isn’t hard for a seasoned dev. Write it in BASIC if you have to lmao


Probably the same things you do with NetBSD on a Macintosh IIci. In my case, it handles internal print services, AppleShare, DHCP and DNS.


And one of the rare incidences of the MPAA ratings banner appearing in the middle of a film.


Click on the drop down at the top of the Open window (where the name of the current folder is displayed) and you get the whole path to choose from.


Thank you!!


This suggests that you were genuine in not knowing. But had you never done a quick web search? It's the kind of thing that I'd feel compelled to find whether I could change the behavior to fit what I would prefer.

Anyway, if you're unaware, here are a couple useful shortcuts for kbd-driven navigation: Command-Down (arrow) to dig one level down the file tree and Command-Up (arrow) to move to the enclosing directory / folder. I use it many times a day all day long.


The problem I've been having is that in Word "Recents" is selected by default. So I pull down that menu and it's useless (full of random Recent folders) The comment above made me realise if I pick "Documents" in the left hand side, that top menu changes from having a bunch of useless "Recents" in it and exposes the filesystem.

No I've never thought to Google how to use the Finder - it seems like that one thing that should be super intutitve - I've never had to Google how to use any other filesystem manager, Windows or Linux. Or iOS. Or Android.


“Recents” is not Finder. That’s actually Microsoft’s useleas UI. It would be far more usable if they did just open the real system file picker. (Msft messed this up on Windows too.)


Yea so it seems my frustrations come from not understanding the file picker isn't the finder. Anyway I've learnt a few things, so thanks everyone. I feel less powerless now.


But this is like the same as windows explorer right? It opens whatever view you used for the app (say, “recents”) and then you click something in the sidebar to go to the “real” filesystem?


I also didn't know how to do that, and I'm certain that I've looked it up at some point. It's just so unintuitive that I'd need to do it daily to remember


Though this article concentrates on the SSRIs, other meds like the SNRIs can have a similar or even worse withdrawal effect. We didn't call it "Side Effexor" for nothing.

People legitimately need these drugs, including in the short term. The problem for acute stressors once they resolve is how to get them back off.


> Though this article concentrates on the SSRIs, other meds like the SNRIs can have a similar or even worse withdrawal effect.

And don't even get me started on tricyclics or MAOIs... no, seriously, don't get me started on them! The current generation of first-line antidepressants (SSRIs/SNRIs) might as well be free compared to the old school crazy pills.


Much of medicine (especially mental health related) is rather primitive. We are literally reverse engineering discoveries that seem to work on some other animals, and then figuring out how (to the best of our limited ability).

I liken SSRIs to carpet bombing - also their mechanism to increase seratonin in the brain is by making something else not use it (reuptake inhibition). We’re guessing that other thing isn’t a big deal. But who knows. Serotonin is produced in the gut and it controls melatonin, which controls our sleep. It’s all connected in a bizarre way.


> I liken SSRIs to carpet bombing

It's like inserting objects into the body's event loop and hoping it produces the desired effects as it circulates, only to find that everything reacts to the event, not just the parts we want.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37029912


It's probably less "modern antidepressants are uniquely bad" and more "we got much better at starting people on safer drugs than we did at figuring out how to stop them"


> school crazy

Yep, that’s how I associate SSRIs.


For something prescribed to get someone through a temporary crisis, "how and when do we get you back off this safely?" should probably be discussed at the beginning, not years later when the patient decides to stop.


for my snri i lessened the dose by 25% and that alone cost me a week of work, i was so fucked over. when i quit this i will for sure do the thing where you open the capsules and remove a little of the contents, gradually removing more each day.

i read online about people doing this and thought they were nutjobs. well, now i know.


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If a fireman is trying to stop a house fire and suddenly they catch fire themselves, no one would argue that they need to focus on the house fire first.

Antidepressants are the same: they won't stop the bigger fire by themselves, but by preventing you from catching fire right now they give you the tools to deal with the larger problem more effectively that if you tried to do it while flailing around and screaming.


man, you're all over this submission shitting on antidepressants and questioning people's experiences. it's irresponsible and really not cool.



"People legitimately need these drugs"

First. Do no harm.


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