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For example, the top 350 books doesn't include a single Chinese book! This is enough to shows you how biased and worthless this list is. It's essentially suggesting there is no literary tradition outside the west.


It seems like your frustration is over the name of the list, and you would prefer it is listed as "The greatest books of Western Civilization". Is that an accurate assessment if the title was different you would be fine with it?

Since the site is in English I think it is likely aimed at an English audience...


>Since the site is in English I think it is likely aimed at an English audience...

To be fair, fully half of the top ten books were not written in English. Non-Indo-European languages can be translated just as well as French and Russian can.


True, but the number of people who focus on non-indo-european languages is a lot smaller than people who focus on languages "closer to home". Probably just comes down to numbers.

It would be interesting to see how culture impacts story/book. Russia seems to have so many amazing works of literature, but is that a function of their culture, or because of the intense focus the USA/UK put on Russia and learning their mindset during the Cold War, or because of something else?


>True, but the number of people who focus on non-indo-european languages is a lot smaller than people who focus on languages "closer to home". Probably just comes down to numbers.

I think it's likely less a question of focusing closer to home and more a product of how the publishing industry operates, as you suggested earlier. Would certainly be an interesting question for more investigation. If it were just down to numbers, I'd expect at least one book written in a non-Western language-- English language readers assuredly aren't quite as insular as the list would suggest.

>It would be interesting to see how culture impacts story/book. Russia seems to have so many amazing works of literature, but is that a function of their culture, or because of the intense focus the USA/UK put on Russia and learning their mindset during the Cold War, or because of something else?

This is also a really interesting question. There might even be some historians here who can chime in on it. It's common for certain countries' language and literature to become "in vogue" at different points in time (e.g. French was really popular in Russia in the 19th century, following the French Revolution). Maybe a similar effect played a role?


Your suggestion for naming would be more accurate and I would be fine with it. However, besides the naming, this list shows how shallow western reviewers are as greatest book lists on the chinese internet always include multiple western books.


I came here to say the same thing. In fact, there isn't a single book in any East Asian language (not just Chinese) within the top 350 listed there!


I think this is a great point. I would really appreciate to see more accurate lists or, better yet, more diverse lists.

However, I have to point out the irony here. Every time someone complains about the lack of western representation they just pretend there isn't a southern hemisphere in the planet. The East is not composed of only Europe, Canada, and the United States.

That's to say, fight for overall diversity, not for western vs. eastern representation because that's a false dichotomy.


I don't see the irony, I'm just more knowledgable about Chinese literature so I gave an example of how biased the list is using its lack of Chinese literature. I am fully aware that many other literary traditions are also not represented on that list, I think its fair to say the vast majority of books on that list belongs to what is normally referred to as western literature.


Who are terrorists? Foreigners the US government doesn't like? Who are domestic terrorists? Citizens the ruling faction doesn't like? Founding fathers must have been a bunch of terrorists.


He needs to start a Radio Free America to save his legacy.


Who is "We"? Why do you assume HN users aren't Trump supporters? Many people see this from a totally different perspective. In most countries, these recent events would be called a coup, performed by the blue faction of the establishment.


Yup, everypage is super slow.


Just think about how easy it is to make deep fakes with this.


While we're discussing racist coronavirus conspiracies which can't explain the positive COVID results of Italian and French patients in November 2019, why don't we go all the way instead and discuss the conspiracies used by Trump supporters? The virus was clearly manufactured by the deep state to steal the election from Trump, to take away person freedoms and to implement a global reset. I find that theory to be much more believable and interesting than this Pottinger paid hit piece on China.


If you think Trump supporters are bad you should take a look at some of the CCTV archives.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/06/world/asia/china-covid-or...


Wow! Another propaganda piece which repeat same falsehoods about COVID origins from China without providing meaningful substance. It's from the NYTimes too, a reputable fake news source which also slanders Trump. Could it be they are also in on the conspiracy to engineer this global reset by stealing the election from Trump using a lab engineered virus?


What on earth was that?!


Wow, I guess CIA only needs pay for two pieces to convince you of the Truth™.


If you believe that's how coin tosses work, you could believe almost anything.


That's not how probabilities work


http://britneyspears.ac/physics/basics/basics.htm My prof showed a slideshow in class that included the band diagram photo, which definitely piqued my interest. I think its just an old school informative website on semiconductor physics with a Britney Spears theme, which back in the day must have been a great idea.


How do you know Taiwan doesn't have malicious state actors behind these backdoors? Is it because they aren't in a China ruled by the evil CCP?


Or could it be an insider job?

Some execs or managers demanding a backdoor, then secretly privately selling the secret password to various nation states and private security companies (for personal profit)


This is a valid possibility, interesting to see such double standards applied to different tech companies based on the residence of their HQ.


Why would they? Also, why expose it in such an obvious way?


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