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These numbers are made up. I don't see how IP clearly makes things worse or better.

On one hand, yes, IP = monopoly = rents, as you say.

But on the other hand, no IP means economy of scale is a lot more important, and that favors huge corporations.

Which effect is bigger? I don't know.


> But on the other hand, no IP means economy of scale is a lot more important, and that favors huge corporations.

"IP" is the thing that favors economies of scale.

Suppose you're a manufacturing company and you want to make your own computers. You're great at making the chassis and screen and batteries and things like that, but to make a whole device you also need an operating system, a compiler, a web browser, a CPU, etc.

If you're free to use existing ones then you have a chance. If you have to develop every one of those things in-house because every existing one is the property of an incumbent who is using it as a moat then you have to be a megacorp or you're sunk.

Notice that this is what all of the smaller companies actually do. Every small consumer device OEM and some of the big ones are using some variant of Linux/Android or BSD rather than developing their own OS. NeXT, the scrappy company Apple bought and turned into Mac OS X when they were themselves the underdog, was based on BSD. RISC-V has shipped more than 30 billion cores and is taking a decent chunk of the embedded market from ARM, which is itself a company that licenses its designs to companies that compete with each other (and run Linux on their chips) rather than using exclusivity and mandatory vertical integration to try to monopolize the whole supply chain. Which is how the mobile market went to them rather than Intel and Microsoft. Who themselves took the desktop and server markets from even more vertically integrated mainframe companies.

The availability of composition is what allows you to be a small company that does one thing well. Which is the thing you can't do when someone else has a monopoly on something you don't make but need, and correspondingly isn't willing to sell it to someone who is trying to compete with them in a different part of the supply chain.

Moreover, the economies of scale you're talking about on the other side actually have diminishing returns. Suppose anybody who wants to make a product that typically sells for $100 has to buy a $10,000 machine in order to do it, but then can make an unlimited number of them. If you're so small that you only ship 100 units, the cost of that machine by itself is adding $100 to the cost of producing of each unit and you're pretty screwed. But if you're a medium sized company and you ship a million units, it's only adding one cent. The advantage of the medium company over the small one is dramatic. Whereas the megacorp that ships ten billion units shaves it down to 1/10000th cent, but then the advantage of the megacorp over the medium one is still less than one cent.

On top of that, it's often something like you need a $10,000 machine that can make a million units even if you only use it to make a hundred, and then the scale advantage of the medium company over the small one is all still there, but the advantage of the megacorp over the medium one doesn't even exist because then to make ten billion units they need ten thousand machines.

Which is even before we get to diseconomies of scale: The larger an entity is, the more efficiency you lose to bureaucracy, coordination costs, principal-agent problems, internal politics, etc.

There is a reason industries with low barriers to entry tend not to monopolize. Why is there no monopolist who grows all of the coffee or weaves all of the clothing? Shouldn't "economies of scale" allow a single huge company to out-compete all of these little ones in the absence of anyone having a way of excluding competitors?

Conversely, find a consolidated industry and you'll generally find some kind of government-backed monopoly or regulatory capture.


You completely missed the point.

AnthonyMouse gave you a overly lengthy rebuttal without getting to the point but the cost structure of IP is as follows: the marginal cost of making a copy is low enough to be negligible compared to the fixed cost of creating it.

This means the theoretical marginal cost is equal to the development cost divided by the number of paying customers. Where the development cost can either be a one time expense or an ongoing expense.

Companies make the fixed investment (or take someone else's fixed investment like an open source project) and they charge market rate pricing. The difference between the marginal cost (which is dropping with scale) and the market rate is economic rent or producer surplus. Competing companies pop up and work on their own product because they see the producer surplus and want a piece for themselves. This is how you get many companies wast the producer surplus on reinventing the same software over and over again.

Now with open source software you have the opposite problem. The marginal cost is zero, but the fixed cost still has to be paid. This means that the customer gets something that they would otherwise have to pay market rate pricing for free, this is consumer surplus. The marginal cost that the consumer would have to pay to keep the project alive becomes irrelevant the more consumers there are, which makes open source a financial tragedy because it fixed the cost structure problem at the expense of self sacrifice.


Not only elections, anything he thinks he should win is rigged: Emmy awards, Nobel Peace Prizes, probably a lot more.

If the cost comes down, that could make something worth paying for when it previously was not.

Not enough to keep that exponential growth curve going.

Wait, I thought we were discussing loss of employment of engineers? Whether the AI companies continue their exponential growth curve is another question entirely. Making up for the (thus far hypothetical) loss of engineering roles doesn’t require the AI companies to even stay in business, let alone grow exponentially.

> We have banned or curtailed access and research for other technologies before.

Such as? I can't think of anything comparable. Nuclear energy maybe, but that has obvious justifications for regulation. Not just "I don't like it".


I guess they meant human cloning, excessive DNA "customization" etc.

You'd be surprised how much of nuclear energy regulation is in fact based on "it just feels scary".

Why would this help? Unsigned integer overflow is defined behavior, that causes basically the same set of bugs in practice. In a way it is worse, because at least runtime UB checkers have a reason to complain about signed integer overflow, but they won't complain about unsigned integer overflow.

If it's well defined you can actually write simple code to check for overflows (like check if the sum or product is less than the inputs) and it wont get deleted by the compiler.

Consider using the simpler code in your standard library to do this operation instead of the less scrutable version you've described here.

> We got a firehose on behalf of our client, a major movie studio, of search of their titles by zip code from “G”.

Doesn't Google basically make this kind of data public? I know I've seen maps by state of what people are searching for, this is barely different.

Point being, it seems absurd to compare this to snooping on people's private networks by third parties


I don't know about this person, but for me and I'm guessing the average professional in basically any field, before LLMs, they simply ignored information that needed summarizing, made their own crappy slides, and didn't proofread their emails.

This is just handing harassers a foolproof method for avoiding police intervention if they wanted to harass (or worse) in person.

Attempting to target a person that is being harassed is a great way to end up under a tombstone. Swatters are scared ass punks that play games with other peoples lives and not their own.

All you're saying is that likelihood of swatters committing additional crime is low, but there is still likelihood. There can be others taking advantage of this situation (or also mad at the couple), who are in fact willing to commit more serious crimes.

Serious crimes are generally a low percentage stat in society overall, which is part of the reason why it's so hard to judge "oh, this isn't serious". Most police encounters aren't, except the ones that are.


"Only come to my house if I'm the one calling"

There, done.


Remind me who leaves 8 bath tub faucets running 24/7/365?


It's not that simple. A pure EV needs ~10x as much battery as a PHEV. So for the same amount of batteries produced, you could make 10x as many vehicles PHEVs as EVs. Not all vehicles can be EVs due to practical issues.

Which results in more total electric miles driven replacing gas? I don't know, but "gas is destroying the world" is a brain short circuit.


What's making you short circuit? Gas is destroying the world.


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