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8999 euros that's very good cargo e-bike territory. I think that's naive to expect car in the same price range.

If Chinese companies can build a 10k€ car somewhat profitably, why wouldn't European ones be able to?

- The battery and motor ecosystem is dominated by Chinese companies. These will happily build EU factories. Embrace and learn.

- Market size is not too much of the problem.The Chinese market is a lot larger, but not ten times.

Perhaps regulatory capture in the EU by large established players is a big part of the problem?


I see your point and feel/hope the same cost structures (IE;cheap chinese cars) will eventually get here( here being US for me). It's not like detroit is bustling anymore anyways.

But on that note, chinese companies aren't building a 10k car profitably. Their OEMs have a dizzying array of subsidies and agreements that allow "market friendly price fixing" and protection from going bust. They are very smartly playing a long game that might end up making everyone better off, we'll see.

A EU or US OEM in the same position would just not be possible from the start. -An existing one IE VW or Ford could leverage massive chains to drive down MSRP, but the public nature of the companies won't allow that for too long. -A new OEM ie "slate trucks" has gone thru this, seeing MSRP jump by 1/3-1/2 simply because decision of the then ruling party changed rebate scenario, as well as global shipping rates skyrocketing.


Same here, but I understand their position. Meanwhile I rely on packages publishing builds for Intel Mac in GitHub (surprisingly a lot) or building from source code. I just asked AI to build me install system.


Yes, your article was noticed in my circle, but numbers was what was lacking


It is just "putting a wet phone in rice" of AI


Still you will not be able to give any existing example that lasted longer than 100 years. There are examples like Sayfawa dynasty which is counter-example to your claim about technology being multiplier


many autocracies in terms of social management systems lasted for many hundreds years.

Leaders of specific autocracies change, right (e.g. king got killed, but now we have new king), but governing structure persisted.


If you treat politics as a religion then you argue merits.

Most common people care for abundance and affluence. Any system that helps them arrive there is ok.


It would be interesting to get details what’s the process behind. Can you reproduce it on personal level?


It's just electrolysing water into hydrogen and then using the hydrogen in a Haber-Bosch reactor with nitrogen from the air to make ammonia. Electrolysis is easy enough to do on a small scale.

Fritz Haber initially demonstrated his process producing 125 milliliters per hour of ammonia in a "tabletop machine", so it's obviously technically possible. Typical process parameters are about 200 bars and 500 degrees C, so it's not trivial but also not outside of what a dedicated hobbyist could reach. I'm pretty sure it's not economically feasible at small scales though. Even the earliest industrial plants in the 1920s made 20 tons of ammonia per day. It will be vastly cheaper to just buy the stuff in bulk from a plant churning out hundreds of tons per day than it will be to make it yourself at a rate of 2 liters per day.

That said, go for it! A factory is just a room, and similarly a chemical reactor is basically just a steel drum.


On a smaller scale plasma electrolytic cells look more economical than Haber-Bosch but are still new tech. I don't remember the company trying to commercialize it but their target is on farm nitrate production.


you might be thinking of https://www.greenlightning.ag/ - seems really cool tech. combined with variable cheap power source like solar or wind, seems like a good way to give ai bit more control over inputs for farmers.


Same story in Lithuania


The Baltic states are a pretty odd mix, Estonia could be any western European country while Latvia next door still feels in places like the Red Army has only just pulled out. It was quite a jolt going from one to the other.

Mind you since we'd started from Russia both of them looked pretty good in comparison, that place was dire.


Dude has not been to Narva lol


Also economic inequality is quite differently shaped across ages

People over 60 are poor, 40..60 are a mixed bag, 20..40 are struggling to keep up.


I am disappointed that not all your comments are this line :D


That's a very insightful observation, highlighting the genuine tension between consistent messaging and quick, pithy responses on Hacker News.


i have a solid picture now, the honest answer is: you're absolutely right


I can guess at least one valid:

* preventing North Korea, China, Russian, Iran and etc. actors from accessing service. They absolutely use workarounds to access AI, e.g. I bet there are companies who are proxy between Anthropic and those countries.

I imagine there will be quite some false positives while identifying those.


This will do absolutely nothing to prevent those actors from accessing Claude... they already recruit young unemployed Americans to do proxy job interviews[0][1], etc. They'll just pay young unemployed Americans to do verification for them.

[0] https://www.tradingview.com/news/cointelegraph:6192f38e3094b...

[1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=QebpXFM1ha0


That sounds likely to increase their costs and create new opportunities to get caught. Not a silver bullet but not "absolutely nothing". Like how anti-money laundering laws don't wipe out all crime, but are still worthwhile.


If the API costs are gonna be thousands, or the subscription will be $20/month, is it really that expensive to pay some guy on Discord a $50 gift card to verify the account as a one-time setup? Better yet, we'll probably start seeing fake porn websites and other phishing sites that ask to verify your age but end up proxy verifying a bunch of these services in an automated manner with minimal costs, and you'll be able to buy verified Claude accounts for tens of cents on account marketplaces. Just as you have been able to buy verified Discord accounts, aged Steam accounts, etc...


I am a Chinese, and I can tell you definitively that it doesn't cost $50. It will only cost about $7 on the Chinese platform "Xianyu".


Get caught how? They don’t tell the person what they’re going to use the accounts for or who will use it. The star buyer patsy knows nothing.

On the scale of intelligence budgets this would be in the realm of petty cash.


They won't even need to do that. With enough time and money, they can certainly figure out how to not trigger the ID verification system.


Also, as many teenagers know, it's trivial to get a fake ID card.


I think you are right. Leadership vacuum will not resolve by itself: Iran either will go democratic way or into some internal fights (this one more probable IMHO).


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