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Whilst I do like reading these things for technical know how, I can sympathise with the creator of jev who now presumably has to apply an order of magnitude effort to explain why the 100 smaller things done better than this add up to a much better product.

Replace 'explain' with 'sell'. Don't forget that it's a gold rush. There's no reason to sympathize with corporations in their rush for the slice of the pie.

You can be unsympathetic to the corporation’s bottom line while being sympathetic to the human beings that had their work trivialized by some cocky blog post.

You can also just acknowledge that we don't know what they did (and that is because they chose not to tell us). Apparently, until not so long ago Jev would spell out its identity as Q-w-e-n if asked, so we might as well assume that what they did is at least similar to what this blog poster did (who chose to tell us).

As a commercial artist seeing some pretty serious market disruption based on models that used my art and writing to create, without permission, credit, or compensation, I’d have a hard time not punching anyone in the AI business complaining about other people using their work uncredited. Then I’d probably have a real hard time not doing it a few more times. I’m confident I’d settle for just dressing them the fuck down, but it would take some real restraint.

I didn't know that - I revoke my OP if true!

My source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49783999#49785351 I don't have an account so couldn't check, a friend couldn't replicate with a one-letter attempt (first letter A 50%) - performed by his agent, though, so not sure what he did exactly.

IT's the infamous "OneDrive in 10 lines of code (SFTP)"

While technically correct, it's not the same thing


It's not the same thing but it have advantages Jev don't have like ... being local.

From what I’ve learned about Jev I feel it’s just a very successful marketing campaign to developers not fully understanding data science (and deep learning). It’s nothing new, been around since 2022? Being local is an extreme advantage lol.

Fast and accurate general purpose classifiers DID NOT EXIST before Jev. You could either use an LLM to get a slow and accurate general purpose classifier, or you could use a smaller model to get a fast and inaccurate general purpose classifier, or you could fine tune your own model that would be both fast and accurate, but it wouldn't be general purpose.

But we still don't have a fast and accurate classifier.

All we have is a company that claims to have created one, with no proof.


Except in this case it's not technically correct. Jev's claim is that it's frontier intelligence and these guys are pretending that a 8-bit quantized 0.6B param Qwen model is that. There's no universe in which that claim is technically correct.

Isn’t Jev built on top of Qwen?

Is Jev built on top of 8-bit quantized 0.6B param Qwen model? No.

I give my agent passwordless sudo and run it directly on prod, deploying directly to prod. I’m not trolling this is exactly what I do. YOLO.


Ha! It’s also going to be funny when he discovers going over India requires parallel diplomatic clearance by his embassy and if he misses the slot, bye bye record. Repeat problem for multiple countries along the route.


They tried a variant of this in Australia for a short period of time before realising IP blocking accidentally takes down thousands of legitimate businesses on shared hosting.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-17/concern-over-asic-int...

They didn’t repeal the law but instead worked out better ways of using the existing powers after a review.

https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/austra...


It was inevitable. I’ve learned over the last few decades that people who actually understand how the Internet works don’t exist in huge numbers in Canberra. Especially not at places like ASIC, which for U.S. readers is the equivalent of the SEC.


This would be great for most projects as Swift for example is abandoned & 6+ years since last commit.


reading the source it looks like for some browsers that rate limit url updates, it has to use a different way that nukes your back button ability.


function drawWorld() { var hash = '#|' + gridString() + '|[score:' + currentScore() + ']';

  if (urlRevealed) {
    // Use the original game representation on the on-DOM view, as there are no
    // escaping issues there.
    $('#url').textContent = location.href.replace(/#.*$/, '') + hash;
  }

  // Modern browsers escape whitespace characters on the address bar URL for
  // security reasons. In case this browser does that, replace the empty Braille
  // character with a non-whitespace (and hopefully non-intrusive) symbol.
  if (whitespaceReplacementChar) {
    hash = hash.replace(/\u2800/g, whitespaceReplacementChar);
  }

  history.replaceState(null, null, hash);

  // Some browsers have a rate limit on history.replaceState() calls, resulting
  // in the URL not updating at all for a couple of seconds. In those cases,
  // location.hash is updated directly, which is unfortunate, as it causes a new
  // navigation entry to be created each time, effectively hijacking the user's
  // back button.
  if (decodeURIComponent(location.hash) !== hash) {
    console.warn(
      'history.replaceState() throttling detected. Using location.hash fallback'
    );
    location.hash = hash;
  }
}


UK now charges £16 for Australians.


please take a look at what they charge people who have to go through a whole visa process (for me, it starts at 179 USD to _apply_ (which may be rejected))

excluding all the time i'd have to spend and documents I'd have to collect


As an Australian I’m disappointed in the lack of the key word ‘cunt’ in the graph. Unless perhaps it’s zero.


In the US, that is an unthinkably bad swearword for some reason.


That's heavily dependent on regional/cultural factors. Among a younger and (mostly) gayer demographic, the once-feared "C-word" is very commonly used, especially in its adjective form.


How do you use it as an adjective? The bad thing was always labelling someone with the word, but there isn't really any other way to use it.


We Aussies have many ways to use it as a compliment

Sick cunt, Mad cunt, Good cunt Etc


It does feature several times.


I guessed 00000 and won first go!


hmm. I guessed something different (010001 maybe, I cant remember) and won first go too. I looked in the comments hoping to find the joke. I guess I'm 1 of the 10 people who don't understand binary jokes.


For context, the original joke is:

> There are 10 kinds of people in this world — those who understand binary and those who don’t.

There are other versions too[1][2][3].

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7036594

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7040175

[3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25854900


Good one! I'm the other of the 10.


Same here.


If you have a modern iPhone and don’t want the crazy hacks, a very very simple but effective tip is to power off your iPhone when exiting the aircraft. When the device powers up it is in “before first unlock” mode and is severely restricted in what it can do. The attack surface area is significantly reduced. They’re not going to burn one of their $100,000 per install exploits on your BFU phone the same way they do with a full physical access unlocked paid exploit.

Also lockdown mode to reduce attack surface area.


> If you have a modern iPhone and don’t want the crazy hacks, a very very simple but effective tip is to power off your iPhone when exiting the aircraft. When the device powers up it is in “before first unlock” mode and is severely restricted in what it can do. The attack surface area is significantly reduced.

From a comment in the article:

"Schneier’s border crossing opsec advice is characteristically thorough, but the recommendation to simply ‘turn off your phone’ undersells modern forensic capabilities. As a security consultant who’s testified in border device seizure cases, I’ve seen CBP’s Cellebrite tools extract data from ‘off’ iPhones up to 72 hours post-shutdown via remnant charge in memory chips (see 2024 DEFCON demo). The article’s Faraday bag suggestion works, but only if activated before entering the 100-mile border zone – we’ve documented RFID sniffers in airport limo services."


I shut down my macbook before coming back to Canada and the agent threatened to confiscate it for a year. I unlocked it because it was purely a principle thing and a new laptop would've been expensive.



From that link (emphasis mine):

> A CBSA officer will start with some questions before examining your personal digital device. To examine the device, the officer will first ask for the password. If the device is password-protected, they will write your password on a piece of paper. You are obligated to provide your password when asked.

> Note Failure to grant access to your personal digital device may result in the detention of that device under section 101 of the Customs Act, or seizure of the device under subsection 140 (1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act or under section 110 of the Customs Act.

Well guess we’re not going to Canada again.

It also never mentions them destroying the written down password.


> Well guess we’re not going to Canada again.

Or Australia:

> Electronic devices held for forensic examination under section 186 of the Customs Act will be retained for no longer than 14 days, provided there is no content on any device retained which renders the device subject to seizure under Customs-related laws. If any device is subject to seizure, the examination of any associated retained devices may take longer than 14 days.

* https://www.abf.gov.au/entering-and-leaving-australia/crossi...

Or every other country.

You may be asked by a border agent from any country to unlock your electronic device.

Feel free to not unlock or give your password of course: every country has a law about confiscation and/or not allowing you in.


It's a border crossing, required unlocking of devices is common practice including especially by the US. National sovereignty is supreme and countries have the right to implement whatever procedures they deem necessary before permitting entry.


Unlocking of devices is distinctly different than “write your password on a slip of paper”. Even if they shred the paper, the room for sure has CCTV video recordings so they’ll have a copy there as well.


Good thing all of us here are following (and extolling) the advice to never reuse passwords, espcially when ones device is in an evidence locker and subject to controlled access by authorized personnel


How do you know they didnt install a rootkit?


Persistence in modern macOS is only really possible in userspace, as the OS partition is immutable. There are only a handful of places this is possible, which are fairly easy to detect.

Unless border agents are burning 0-days on random passersby, it’s fairly unlikely they installed anything persistent that can’t be removed.


He looked through my files in front of me.


I’ve always been mildly curious about this. When you say “looked through my files” what exactly do you mean? They opened finder and scrolled through the standard folders like downloads, documents, pictures, etc?


My laptop boots to a text-mode getty prompt, I wonder what would happen...


Good point. This applies to Android as well.


It's a good advice if you are citizen and cant be compelled to unlock the phone or be denied entrance for not consenting to search.

The good opsec in general, I think, is to comply, not have an obvious burning phone setup, but to have nothing capturing attention


They can still hold you for a long time (days?) at the border without being formally charged with anything. That's what I've been told, not sure how true it is. A Canadian entering the U.S was held for 2 weeks with no charges - not just a entry denial.


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