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And that half a RMB doesn't include extra fees or delivery rates vs supply rates, correct? It's the all in rate?


I'm not quite sure what you mean by "extra fees or delivery rates," but this is the total amount I pay for electricity, no additional charges.


In my state in the US, they started differentiating between a "supply" rate, as in who generated your electricity, versus a "delivery" rate, or who delivered the electricity. That way they can market the supply rates to you and charge you on delivery additionally.


That sounds a little complicated, do the two parts actually adjust dynamically?

In China, end users pay a single bundled retail electricity price that already includes the full cost of both generation and delivery. The State Grid company purchasing electricity from generators and settling with them centrally.

Electricity prices are also government-regulated, and any change must go through public notice and approval.


Supply rates can adjust dynamically but not delivery, though delivery rates have been creeping upwards as well.


> - no emissions

This is particularly nice when you're warming the car up in the garage during cold snaps. Hard to do this with ICE vehicles without risking carbon monoxide buildup.


For readers wondering, OpenRouter isn’t capable of caching as effectively as DeepSeek is because they will, for instance, switch inference providers in the middle of a session.


The way I use openrouter is I find a model/provider combination I like then pin all requests for that model to that single provider.


If you disable all other providers but DeepSeek in your OpenRouter guardrails, is that effectively the same thing?


Sure but you still pay only OpenRouter :)


Interestingly, OpenRouter will serve inference at cost for a lot of models.


No? They charge 5.5% (I believe) on every top-up. Which is the equivalent of charging you 5.5% on every request.


Ah, so that's where the profit comes from. Very payment-processor like move, makes sense that Stripe picked them up.


How do you do this?


provider: { order: ['deepinfra/turbo'], allowFallbacks: false, },

https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/routing/provider-selection


What harnesses are capable of doing this provider pinning when doing requests on openrouter? Can DeepSeek harness (dsh) do it? Or opencode etc

I stopped using opencode because it has some issues with caching, so I suppose it doesn't do this


Deepseek plugins* all the way down. It should be easy to add support for this.

Using this interesting framework called Cordis I've recent discovered.


Open code and pi can do it. Unironically, I let Claude configure these things for me.


What pests said. And you can make a preset and pass "model": "@preset/deep-seek"


How can they? If you use openrouter Deepseek fine but can’t you select the model direct from Deepseek you’re basically getting api access models that way.


Deepseek is cheap and fast, but it couldn't follow the basic directions I gave every other model (GLM, Qwen, GPT, Claude) to use red/green TDD. Put me off of using DS.


The UI design gap is something I’ve noticed as well, in things as simple as ASCII diagrams. Claude has a more human touch. All the diagrams GPT 5.6 generated for me were dressed up lists with too many pipe symbols.


To add to your point:

> "Quite frankly, the biggest issue we are now having is not a compute glut, but it's power and it's sort of the ability to get the builds done fast enough close to power," he told the show's hosts. "So if you can't do that, you may actually have a bunch of chips sitting in inventory that I can't plug in. In fact, that is my problem today. It's not a supply issue of chips. It's actually the fact that I don't have warm shells to plug into."

> - Satya Nadella

https://redmondmag.com/blogs/generationai/2025/12/microsoft-...


> It's actually the fact that I don't have warm shells to plug into.

So that’s how the Matrix got started …


And the will


Astra's looks the worst to me on mobile, though


That's fair - worth noting that none of them were instructed to make a mobile variant or to test the mobile size.


Everyone's still bottlenecked on foundries, not designs.


Isn’t this the whole concept for (braces) terafab? Reduce iteration cycle time.


Cant AI build foundries?


Something we can all agree with is we need more foundries and green power.


yup, but it'll take about 3-5 years.


AI can barely fold a shirt


Knowledge is for the machines, you see; we are simply here to tend to their electrons. At least for now.


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