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I switched to Debian/Cinnamon few weeks ago. I am fairly good with the server sides of things, but the desktop a little painful.

Screens dont wake up properly, sometimes only one screens wakes up, sometimes one screen wakes up with a wrong resolution. The usual linux desktop problems where nothing really works and finding a solution is very hard to many different permutations of hardware / os / kernel / drivers / window manager / etc.

I have the framework desktop with AMD 395+

My windows ssd is plugged and I can boot it directly using virt-manager, so thats kinda solves some windows specific stuff like tax software.


You are using a distro that is generally very behind on software versions and doesn’t bundle non free software (Debian) on a laptop with brand new hardware. Additionally, you are running a DE (cinnamon) which is really designed for a specific distro (Mint) which you are not using.

If you want stuff to just work you might want to try using a more up to date distro with a mainstream desktop. Stock Ubuntu or Fedora would probably work fine for you.


debian 13 is using kernel 6.12 vs ubuntu 24 6.14. I don't think it's a kernel issue, and more that amd drivers aren't there yet for the new hardware.

running the latest also is problematic, i.e. a new kernel upgrade that blows thing up.

and that's the main difference between linux and windows, windows just works, osx just works, linux is a minefield of different quirks.


The amd drivers might not there, and they will continue to not be there on the version of the kernel you are using and choosing to be stuck on by using Debian. Drivers are part of the kernel in Linux, it’s not how windows works. Ubuntu and Fedora are not unstable, you are just choosing pain for yourself.

>Drivers are part of the kernel in Linux

While the drivers at the runtime are part of the kernel, they are not distributed as part of the kernel.

My drivers are *latest* -> 6.16.6.30200100-2255209.24.04

https://instinct.docs.amd.com/projects/amdgpu-docs/en/latest...

Debian is *stable*, but you are so far only proving my point in my original post.

If you are going to download ubuntu, the version proposed is 24.04 that has older kernel version than my debian 13.

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop -> Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS -> Kernel 6.8


> Debian is stable,

Stable in Linux language is a synonym for OLD. Don't let any stable OSes near any hardware that is newer than the release, and you'll be fine.

Linux 6.12 was released back in 2024, which is several months earlier than the hardware you have. So the reasonable expectation is that there is a high chance that fixes for it won't be in yet.

And use the builtin AMD drivers, you shouldn't have to touch those assuming other choices were done ok.


This is just false. Amdgpu is an in tree kernel module and has been forever. https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/gpu/amdgpu/index.html

If you are installing via an outside method, again, you are going agasint the grain for no good reason and making problems for yourself.

Nobody is suggesting installing LTS on brand new hardware.


>This is just false. Amdgpu is an in tree kernel module and has been forever. https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/gpu/amdgpu/index.html

You are arguing and arguing and shifting goal posts as we go.

The facts are:

* I am running the latest amdgpu video driver.

* AI 395 wasn't released yesterday, but a year ago.

* (My original point) Many different permutations of hardware / os / kernel / drivers / window manager / etc.

I highly doubt that installing Ubuntu 25.10 will fix the issue. Can you provide that guarantee? No. Then we can stop talking.


I’m not shifting any goal posts. I’m just tired of these posts from people saying that Linux is unstable, has quirks, etc but when you dig into it, all of the “quirks” are actually the result of strange decisions made by the author.

It’s fine to be new to Linux, but please refrain from the sweeping generalizations until you are more familiar with how it works.


Honestly, just switching to a kernel that isn't older than your hardware have a decent chance of fixing your issues. It is typically fine to upgrade kernels unless the distro has made some special modifications to them, and it was a very long time since I was hit by something like that.

Fedora is 6.18, it’s like you did not notice the word Fedora, and chose shitty clone of Debian instead of Debian. Of course it worse, no need to prove that. Get Fedora.

This has been my issue as well - screens waking or not waking up. On latest Linux Mint and everything is great except when switching back and forth inputs between my personal and work laptop (running Windows), I have to do it twice going to my personal laptop or else the external monitor won't show.

This is pretty much everytime in Europe, not sure if the local terminals or the chase chip card always prompts me to pay with 1) USD 2) EURO


Depends where in Europe. I saw it all the time in Spain but never in France.


ATMs do this as well. Always decline the bank doing the conversion.


yes, 2.5 just couldnt use tools right. 3.0 is way better at coding. better than sonnet 4.5/


You cant buy an iPhone without a director approval. And it's like 3 gen behind as well. So no, they don't use iPhones.


Google tells its employees what products they're allowed to buy for personal use?


Seems like they meant for a work device.


lots of googlers use BYOD iPhones and the corp suite for this use case is fairly well-supported


Which makes tons of sense because iPhone users are higher CLV than Android users. If Google had to choose between major software defects in Android or iOS, they would focus quality on iOS every time.


that explains why their ios gemini app is so ridiculously bad. in private they probably use iphones and just chatgpt instead.


you have to get premission from director for your presonal phone? wtf


For the work phone.


>(Ukraine was richer than Poland in 1993...)

Lol that's an absolute false statement. Ukraine was never richer than Poland, when it became a country (1991) economy went down a lot. So in 1993 - hahaha.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Poland/Ukr...


Why? I would expect China to be at the top since it's #1 manufacturing country? But India is like behind Germany at (5).

How about GDP per emission? And that would make China way higher than US.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-intensity


Ohhh so they aren't like selling weapon to Russia? Right. Keep going.


I see your point but, they're really not selling much more than golf carts and drones. If they go all-out with selling their actual military hardware (which they have a large stockpile and production capacity of), it would be get much more difficult for Ukraine to keep up the balance without increasing support from the west.

It's really quite interesting to see China being labelled as imperialist mean while the western powers have been colonizing and meddling in all kinds of affairs for generations... (see Operation Northwoods as one example)


Everybody makes mistakes.

The US is able to mention its past mistakes.

China still can't talk about students it murdered over 30 years ago.

Yet, recent American presidents have no problem admitting that Afghanistan and Iraq wars weren't the best of ideas.


> The US is able to mention its past mistakes.

The entire point of being able to mention past mistakes is for future generations to be able to learn from them and avoid making the same mistakes. It seems, in recent times, that while this liberty is "afforded" to US/Europe, they're not able to use it effectively, if at all. Meanwhile, even though the Chinese might not be able to talk about their mistakes publicly, it seems evident from their progress and events that they have not forgotten them, and that it is in their minds, at the very least.

Edit: Not to mention, looking at how your current president is going after Canada just because of an ad, don't keep your hopes up on US citizens being able to "mention" things either.


Okay and how many years is George Bush Jr and his entire administration serving currently?

What good is mentioning past mistakes if there's strictly zero consequences


Is that better or worse than aiding/supporting genocide?


>magnetic swipe card phaseout.

Swipe? I don't recall a time when I needed to swipe in US in the last few years. Pretty much tap, tap, tap, tap. Actually you cannot swipe a card in US that has a chip, and probably 99% of cards have chips.

>Compare the quality of that to a wire or to a ACH transfer.

Zelle? Just a qr code or a phone number? And it's free?

>Wise and Revolut

No clue. What's so special that I don't have with Chase?

>EU is also ahead with security

Um isn't that useless? As more scams are via social engineering.

>But I heard worse of the US.

I heard the same about EU, actually MUCH worse :)


> Swipe? I don't recall a time when I needed to swipe in US in the last few years.

I do, earlier this year visiting the USA. The readers on pumps at two different gas stations.

But the EU started phasing out reading magnetic strips twenty years ago, well before the USA had even started issuing EMV chip cards.

> Zelle?

Zelle is only for person-to-person transfers, Europe has had good person-to-business, business-to-person and business-to-business transfers for decades.

> ...

The point wasn't that the USA didn't have these things, but that Europe had them earlier (sometimes much earlier), so the banking system led to this innovation.


Well you found one, and I can tell you about time when in EU that a place took a hard print of my card in the last 5 years! Didn't even know that card imprinters still exists.

Zelle is not just person to person, it's just a transfer. You can pay businesses, people and even transfer to yourself. Zero fees.

Europe is a big continent and I can easily find a place that is way more backwards ;)

Also 2 letters from EMV stands for 2 American companies :).


I am I really hate driving long road trips.. So yes! Or they could even sell private taxi between states so I don't even have to own a car :)


does gemini code assist work with Rider? Since its a jetbrain ide? I would drop VS2022 in favor of anything, but vscode isn;t cutting it.


It's there but when I tried it a few months ago I wasn't impressed. But I think it's gotten better recently.


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