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Fellow AB resident here.... then what do you make of their claim that 99.2% (or whatever the number was) of residents in Sylvan Lake, Drumheller etc signed the petition? Has to be completely fabricated right?

Suspect or poorly worded

I agree that the most obvious answer is probably correct, and I think that it was a poorly worded statement, however, I haven't seen them correct it yet (doesn't mean they haven't.... just that I haven't seen it).

She lives in a different country, Canadian laws can't do anything about it. I'm not sure what the answer is to this, but it's a real problem.

Oh, I was thinking of going after Facebook given that they finance the operation.

Didn't they almost immediately retract that after it became clear so many of the GOP adjacent accounts were based offshore?

No they released the feature. The more controversial part was X also announced they’d start a large ban campaign to kill off foreign accounts posting stuff low quality politics memes like this just for money. This got push back as a bunch of big accounts claiming it would create false positive bans and they had legitimate interest in the topics despite not being American etc. I didn’t follow it closely after that but I believe it still led to some foreign accounts being banned, just not at the scale Nikita Bier wanted.

“Just ban them” is admittedly more complicated than it sounds once you think about it. Ie what about Canadians who post about American politics all the time. Or is it just low quality Indian accounts. How do you measure quality. Etc


They did.

I saw a headline about this the other day. I couldn't find it but did come across this article. https://www.zmescience.com/medicine/genetic/lab-grown-hair-f...

No idea if ZME science is reputable at all.


Totally unreputable. That is not a scientific journal. That is some guy (Who's degree is in geophysics) biog. The article was written by him.

Here's the journal article from the authors mentioned in the article.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41762869/


I get the sentiment that this is unscrupulous, however, isn't 15 days enough time to find the right price? Or will that not really happen until first quarterly earnings report, which will not occur within that 15 day window?

The fact that you know there’s a large pool of price insensitive buyers only 15 days away has to have some price impact.

No, IPO pops, and honey moon periods are common.

And there are plenty of ways to manipulate the price, such as issuing a low float to a hyper hyped stock..


4-8 quarters for most tech IPOs to settle. IPOs are manufactured for the good times around young co's, so not surprising, and economic stability isn't a question of days/weeks/months.

And yes often a falling knife

This is pretty predictably wall street & federal regulators scamming normal people, retirement funds, etc, taking their fees and exit window at everyone else's expense


> 4-8 quarters for most tech IPOs to settle

Where are you getting this timeline from?


Mostly by having a pulse for the last 10-20 years as someone in the bay area seeing it repeatedly play out as tech IPOs get dumped onto retail investors repeatedly, including the 'good' ones. Being lucky enough to participate in IPOs makes you check these wrt when to balance IPO pop exit (weeks/months) vs long-term tax benefits of holding (2yr+).

- The initial pop is known to be manufactured by banks, so mostly benefits insiders, so good time to diversify. I'm conservative so sold to cover effective basis or whatever risk strategy :)

- The lockup period (6mo) is a similarly known artificial event, and studies show that

- Tech companies take ~8 quarters of prep for the IPO as they do financial engineering to transition from VC growth-at-all-costs to public $, and I'd expect the same for whatever nonsense they pulled to juice numbers to shake out. And that's not including oddballs like the Musk alternate universe, just normal tech companies covering up EBITDA and low interest rate madness.

- Tech is especially volatile as an industry, so even more skepticism here. Eg, the latest IPO I was involved in was a successful professional social network play, and chatgpt killed it.

Most/all of these are googleable things


Almost every retail investor has a random vibe like this about a market-timing hypothesis. They’re pretty much all cocktail conversation at best.

Lock-up expiry is a real effect. Everything else you mention is Reddit stuff—trading the pop is practically a gamble.


? Very much agreed, the IPO pop is a manufactured pricing event focused on investor dynamics rather than direct fair market pricing, making it more of a gamble than normal. Including gambles in index funds defeats the point.

Maybe the confusing point was my involvement is (discounted) pre-IPO shares, which almost by definition, is not an activity accessible to retail investors.


I mean the goal is that you have multiple earnings report to show sustainability.

Meanwhile some of these companies are also lobbying to be able to only have to submit annual or biannual earnings reports, too.

Everyone is looking for multiple ways to leave the dumb money holding the bag.


Perhaps the attacker says that they email was also hacked and "this is my new email now". It sounds like this was a result of AI support and not a real person "And if you're part of the A/B tested accounts on which the AI support option is active, tough luck, you can't even turn it off."

It's probably a bit more nuanced then that. You have to look at the people that use Tiktok... are they generally more left or right? I don't know the answer. I would have said they are younger and therefore more left leaning, however, I think that's becoming less and less true.


Education was abandoned. And as people who are old enough know perfectly well, since this show has been played before: uneducated young people are largely extreme-right.


Prof G Markets podcast just had an episode on this with Ray Madoff. They talk about the claim that "the top 1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax". But Ray points out that is misleading because the 1% is basically lawyers, physicians, accountants etc that make like $500,000/yr. These people still pay income tax and that's the group paying 40% of income tax. What that claim misses is the 0.1% that pay 0 income tax because they have no income. The claim makes people believe that the billionaires are the ones paying that huge sum but we fail to realize that the 1% is our neighbours, not just the billionaires flying private jets across the world.


$0 just feels like a concept -- I can imagine a really high quality structuring exercise that gets tax low by making sure leverage on capital is what's used for spending, but I'd be really surprised to see a 0.1%-er (or 0.001%-er) post $0 income tax. For one, it's disadvantageous for certain kinds of bank interactions. But also, capital calls come in, investments that are made often require a step-up in basis, leverage is taken out on assets that require a margin call or a sale, there are alternative tax regimes, the corporations that are owned by these parties have their own tax burdens..

To say the wealthy can afford to radically optimize taxes and that our system taxes capital much more lightly than labor seems accurate to me, but I just haven't seen offers for "pay zero tax for all your life" from high grade professionals.

If US citizens want that, they generally give up their citizenship, pay their exit tax, and live in a low tax jurisdiction. I do know people like this, and they are very unlike the 0.1% types you're referring to here, and they've given up the benefits of being a US citizen in exchange for their preferred lifestyle. (And paid a mark to market exit tax on all assets on their way out of the country)


> I'd be really surprised to see a 0.1%-er (or 0.001%-er) post $0 income tax.

Bezos did, in 2007.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trov...

> Consider Bezos’ 2007, one of the years he paid zero in federal income taxes. Amazon’s stock more than doubled. Bezos’ fortune leapt $3.8 billion, according to Forbes, whose wealth estimates are widely cited. How did a person enjoying that sort of wealth explosion end up paying no income tax?

Or the President (now permanently immune from audit, incidentally):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-tru...

> He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made.


Yeah and he lost money for a decade or more. Blame the system that you can loss harvest. Or call it fair that we don’t penalise business for having bad years.


This. The paragraph might have backed up and said "Bezos, after sustaining over 95% capital losses in the prior decade,.."


> Yeah and he lost money for a decade or more.

On paper, I'm sure. Let's not pretend that's reality.


>interesting how this never came up in the Quebec referendums

It did come up. It's referenced in the Supreme Court of Canada case on secession. https://decisions.scc-csc.ca/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/1643/in...

"Consistent with this long tradition of respect for minorities, which is at least as old as Canada itself, the framers of the Constitution Act, 1982 included in s. 35 explicit protection for existing aboriginal and treaty rights, and in s. 25, a non-derogation clause in favour of the rights of aboriginal peoples. The "promise" of s. 35, as it was termed in R. v. Sparrow, [1990] 1 S.C.R. 1075, at p. 1083, recognized not only the ancient occupation of land by aboriginal peoples, but their contribution to the building of Canada, and the special commitments made to them by successive governments. The protection of these rights, so recently and arduously achieved, whether looked at in their own right or as part of the larger concern with minorities, reflects an important underlying constitutional value."


She may just be happy that MHCare is out of the news. However, I'm not sure if this is any better.


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