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These summaries have been trivially bolted on, they're entirely self-contained, they can be easily turned off.

Some results also have thumbnails. They could easily be turned off. That doesn’t mean thumbnails are a different product, or an abuse of monopoly power.

It does if the thumbnails are harmful and you're as market dominant as Google with the incalculable levers of coersion like turning off your email or drive which they spend 20 years actively doing everything possible to get everyone to use.

Whether the AI summaries are harmful to users of Search has no bearing on whether the AI summaries are an abuse of monopoly power.

They are both, but one is the only reason the other matters.

And sometimes they just fail to generate, while the search still shows the usual results.

Possibly they want to evolve the feature to be _not_ bolted on.

Images for a slideshow, citations for an essay, research for a project?

Don't you do that on your own personal computer and not.. on a school computer? Though, I'd advise against Google these days since it doesn't surface good results anymore. Even Bing is now better.

You can't count on kids having access to personal computers. And sometimes the computer is the class. I taught graphic design, and even though the kids all had licenses to use the Adobe suite at home, few actually could.

Aren't all of them carrying smartphones these days? If not, there's the public library.

Not that I think you'd need Google for school work. I know I never used it when I was in school. Everything related to class could be looked up in the textbooks. At most I used Wikipedia to find reference links for homework.


They are carrying smartphones. They're not allowed to come out during class, they don't have access to the WiFi, and cell signal is extraordinarily weak across most of the campus.

Public library? They're at a school. They're sitting in front of a computer. They should be able to use it to find information. You keep reaching for "why do they need it?" but there's no reason why they should not have access to search engines. I provided several examples and there are very many more out there. Not every class teaches from a textbook.


How could they possibly? Neurons aren't floating point values that can be so easily perceived and changed. They don't strictly flow in consistent directions.

It's a recent change they made (could still be rolling out) for signed-out users.

I remember at one point years ago they were requiring their app (and/or maybe a sign-in?) for NSFW content, for no particular reason. Now it's this.

More and more I'm thinking of what a nonsense world we live in. Once upon a time we hated Microsoft for trying to make us use IE. Now every company from McDonalds to onetime-open-Internet-darling Reddit is trying to force us to use their shitty apps, which amount to just single-site web browsers, which almost always entails granting way more powerful permissions, and which always renders you unable to block ads.

Internet of Shit.


I agree with your sentiment, but reiterate that reddit is totally usable on a web browser. I didn't realize there was now a login requirement, but I don't particularly care about that.

I do have an old phone dedicated to the apps you simply can't avoid, but it spends most of its time sitting on a desk in airplane mode or powered off.


The customer support reps find the AI assistance hamfisted and laughable. AI call transcriptions get big and small details wrong, often leaving out critical details in favor of generic and high level "customer and agent discussed an ongoing issue with their home appliance." AI "let me direct your call" bots are constantly sending people to essentially random departments. AI bots trying to directly be the customer service serve only to piss people off before they get to a human, and I've run into a few businesses that are only staffed by bots.

> The affected devices run specific versions of a large vendor’s firewall software.

And the vendor's firewall software runs an unpatched version.


I bet it's fortinet.

Or Palo Alto networks

This is 100% PAN-OS

Just outrage/security fatigue I believe.

Firefox on my machines looks fine.

reading these comments are so interesting to me. I would've thought a video is a video, but I guess maybe there's some codec settings behind the scenes? On Firefox, I get the washout. On Brave/Chrome, it looks normal.

Looks fine on mine as well.

From the article,

> While observing 422 children ages 3 to 5, a 2022 study led by Radesky found that mobile device use for calming — in other words, a digital pacifier — was associated with “decreased executive functioning and increased emotional reactivity.” (Executive function refers to memory and problem-solving skills needed for everyday life. Emotional reactivity refers to poor impulse control in response to stress, pain, and other negative feelings.)

ADHD is a type of executive function disorder.


The study doesn't claim causation. Instead of mobile device use causing executive dysfunction, it is more probable that the correlation is because mobile device use is more effective at calming down a child with poor executive function than a child with typical executive function. That's not to say it's a good way of calming of course.

Alas, you've received downvotes even though the substance of what you say is valid.

I'll say it's misguided, as well as the root comment to which you're reaponding. The particular study soesnmt show causation, but there's a growing bidy of research that does (it's easy to find).


The meta analysis study referenced in the article that covers 2.8 million kids in total did not find a link between screen exposure and executive functioning issues (or with math, science, reading, and a few other things). But I couldn’t tell from the summary what age ranges were covered.

They are already attempting to flee the kitchen as quickly as they can, unfortunately the rest of the planet that's still in the kitchen isn't keen on letting them escape the grease fire they started.

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