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why? like having a dozen outages in the last couple months isn't a good enough reason why?

GitLab is just as bad, just not as big so doesn't get the coverage. https://status.gitlab.com/pages/history/5b36dc6502d06804c083...

And of course many people self-host which changes a lot of the equation (which you can also do with GitHub, but not for free - and FWIW our self-hosted premium gitlab has about an hour a day downtime, which we've been told by the team responsible is an unavoidable side-effect of backing up gitlab).


I was responsible for administering a self hosted GitLab instance for a medium sized company and our backups never required downtime. The built in backup command doesn't require downtime but also isn't a consistent point in time snapshot (specifically because the instance keeps running while the backup is being taken). If they've decided they need one for some reason, stopping GitLab is certainly the easiest way, but not the only way of accomplishing that goal, but that'll be true of any self-hosted forge, including GitHub.

You could stop it, do a snapshot of the storage and backup that for <1 min of downtime probably.

But at the same time, if you're not a global company, doing it at 3am is probably fine.


Doing a snapshot of the storage while it's running wouldn't be bad either, it'd just be like having cut power at the point of the snapshot, right?

Yes. And the database used by GitLab is Postgres which handles that just fine.

It can be an issue if you are using gitlab as your container/package registry and production workloads need to pull from it, though.

They should be pulling from a pull through scanning repository cache anyway, so they can be scanned before going into production.

Weird. I’ve been on a self hosted enterprise gitlab and I think we’ve have only one or two performance degradations/outages in the past 6 years

We’re talking about the SaaS version, not self-hosted.

Are you sure?

> [...] and FWIW our *self-hosted* premium gitlab has about an hour a day downtime



No horse in this race but GitLab has been down a few times recently too.

Considering the sheer volume GitHub received lately I wouldn’t be surprised if GitLab would experience similar issues unless self hosted.

Or what do you think?


Or Microsoft/OpenAI (and others) just blatantly scraping all your codebases and violating thousands of OSS licneses?

If the repos are public, hosting location doesn't make a difference.

public repos don't have to be scraped or cralwed all over by bots right?

They should not, then again they are.

We're going to need something more expansive than OSI software licenses for the future.

Something like, "if you look at us, we must be able to look at you"


How about "if you're not the customer, you're the product".

At the risk of stating the obvious, that isn’t a software license.

they assume if someone wants context, they'll just ask chatGPT for it


“Nothing in my training data covers this, but if I had to guess, OpenAI may have released information about GPU support in Mac OS X early, pissing off Steve Jobs.”


sadly they are probably right


>Open sourcing models is not a commercial risk because barely anyone can run them locally

there are dozens of us!


Open weights are indeed a commercial risk because there's no shortage of companies that'll make a business out of running MaaS (model as a service), close & resell a fine-tuned or distilled variant (DeepSeeking of Llama / Cursorification of Kimi, for example).


you're not a customer of any of their products at all already? not a single apple device in your household?


I didn't have a single Apple device in my house until a month ago when I bought a Neo. The last Apple devices I had before that were an iPod Nano and a PowerMac G5 many many years ago.

Apple has pretty good competition in every segment with the exception of maybe the iPad, but I'm not a tablet user.


Some folks like to have a computing environment free of proprietary influences and extremely strong vendor lock-in. I cannot claim to posses any apple devices.


How does the Mac have extremely strong vendor lock-in?

Sure, you can use the App Store and use all the stuff that integrates with iPhone, iCloud, etc

But you can also just treat it as Linux for Laptops (that actually works), and roll with all the standard open source tools.


I don't disagree with you, but technically speaking MacOS is still proprietary and Asahi is not compatible with the latest and greatest Apple devices.

While they don't _prevent_ Asahi from doing what they're doing, they certainly don't go out of their way to make it easy for them.


I wasn't thinking of Asahi. Just pointing out that you can run all the standard unix/open source tools and apps on Mac OS (vi, git, qgis, blender, vsc, python, node, etc). With the advantage of higher quality hardware and generally less fiddling.

But if you don't like it, switch. I don't see vendor lock-in.


A lot of convenient things come with the lock-in if you have >1 device

Notes sync, Copy/Paste would be hard to give up and took zero effort


I don't now how the MacOS equivalent compares, but Linux/Windows has KDE Connect that I use for that https://kdeconnect.kde.org/


Apple is also iOS


Correct. Been using Linux and Android for over ten years. My household had no Apple devices until I got married.


No, I've never owned an Apple device in my life, neither has anyone in my family to my knowledge.


None. And I have a PC, a personal laptop, a work laptop, my current and my previous Android phone.


What a bizarre bubble you live in to even be asking this question... I've never owned a single apple product, and never will.

And in the rare occasions in which I have to use someone's MacBook, I'm completely lost - like some elderly person.


there a many people who don't own Apple. Why are you so surprised? I certainly don't and never will. What's it got that I can't get on a standard PC + Linux?


Not. A. Single. One.


only a small subset of the HN front page is AI related lol


What bizarro world HN are you reading? I'd like the link, please.


Looking at the front page right now, only about 8 out of 30 are about AI.


Only?


as someone who just got back from a nice motorcycle group ride: lol


Stay safe, young grasshopper.

You can be the best rider in the world and still have a bad day/week/month/year/life.


Can never predict your future. Enjoy what you will, when you can. I was in a motorcycle accident in 2021, TBI, hospitalized for 3mo, induced coma, and rehab for 9 months after.

I am back on the horse. It is just a zen and still relaxing time, albeit more anxiety while riding, than before. Thankful I can still ride, and I do.


You were in a crash sir.

I'm glad you're better. Tenacity.


Safest travels. Glad to hear you humped back on 'er.


And you can be the best car driver and still sway off or have some idiot crash into you head-on or miss a red light...


At a minimum you're belted in surrounded by a cage.

More likely you're belted in your cage and surrounded by airbags.

Apples to orangutans.


>surrounded by a cage

THIS is the major difference, protecting even the best motorcyclist's abilities.

Some US highways are posted at 85mph [137km/h] – unprotected flesh doesn't stand a chance!


> Some US highways

I'm sorry, but from a European perspective, this is the problem, not bikes. If your roads and driving culture encourage driving a tank for safety, that's a bit less than ideal.

I commuted to work for 5 years on a moped. I never used a highway, almost never exceeded 50km/h, and had 2 accidents during that time; both resulted in just a few scratches and bruises.

In another post, you said: "maybe speed was a factor" - actually, it's the only factor. If you never go too fast and never use roads where others may go too fast, you're safe - at least from life-altering tragedies.

If, on the other hand, it's generally impossible to get where you want to without using highways, or the sheer distance forces you to step on it - then yeah, don't buy a motorbike. Just note that it's not the bike's fault!


I lack the commenting impulse control to say this in a politically correct way so my apologies for the outrage that will follow, but to put it crudely there is someone in my extended family who became a retard after falling off their bicycle at roughly walking speed and with a helmet on. It's rare but you can easily die just from walking and slipping on a banana peel.

While you're right about slower generally being safer, you should still treat it like a life-altering tragedy could happen at any time and like you're going 200 kph.


I'm sorry for your relative, and of course you should always do things like driving (diving, cycling, sailing, climbing - or even cooking and cleaning) as if a tiny mistake could cost you everything: that's because it's actually true. These activities will never be risk-free; the best you can do is bring the risk down to a level comparable to that of alternatives (with "just don't do it" included in the set) and hope no unfortunate incidents occur to you.

It's still worth noting the relative probability: death or life-changing injury is basically what happens in every single accident when you're going 200km/h on a highway surrounded by (what could as well be) steel walls moving at the same speed; in my use case, when not exceeding 40-50 km/h and using roads where other users basically stand still most of the time, you need a pretty specific conditions and a lot of bad luck to even have an accident, much less die or become permanently disabled as a result of one. Still, not a zero probability, but the difference between 100% and 0.01% is kind of noticeable.


I don't see the appeal of group rides myself. Always seems to be some stupid shit happening.

Half of the group rides I see are to "honor" or "remember " a rider who died doing something stupid as well.


That's a bit like saying "I don't wear a seatbelt when driving a car, but I've never had a problem."


The previous is a bit like saying "My pal got hurt in a car crash, never get a car".


And then when almost every person says that, it turns out to be good advice. But we have statistics on this!


personal take? token prices are a race to the bottom, as long as open source models remain competitive. that's why OSS is so important


as someone on the other side who has had to deal with deploys that go from 5PM to 2AM due to bad code changes, and being on call with 40+ pages a day, there's a reason why SREs are just say no when they're the first responders to outages caused by poorly implemented features. I'm not saying just say no is the right mentality but I can see why many develop the cynical anti-change mentality


CoL outside of Seoul is ridiculously cheap


Apparently a single person can live in Busan on 1500 USD per month. 200k buys you 11 years, not accounting for inflation and COL increase.

A 40 year old person can’t retire on that money.


the one guy I know who has worked with colo at scale (unfortunately in the crypto space) is now an EM at Goog


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