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Theoretically if this was possible (and I doubt it is, like c'mon) then it could be used for early detection of cancer.

From what I've read, full body scans are awful for this--your body forms and kills tumors all the time. The false positive rate is ridiculous.

The more we measure, the better we get at separating the false positive cases from the serious ones. Especially in a world where AI plays a bigger role in the development of the medial sciences.

Going forward into the future and not measuring more accurately because we are worried about false positives in our current limited understanding is a very conservative take.


> The more we measure, the better we get at separating the false positive cases from the serious ones.

On what basis do you say this? There is an extensive literature that refutes this. Scanners have been getting much better since the first CT scans and many more people are getting them.


False positives aren't a consequence of having the data, they're a consequence of misusing the data to issue diagnoses with insufficient evidence. "Just" don't set your thresholds for diagnosis so that you do that.

> your body forms and kills tumors all the time. The false positive rate is ridiculous.

Um, that's still a tumor.


Yeah but it's not cancer.

I'm not so worried about the data being useful, I'm worried about the machine actually working.

I mean, with that much data, you may be able to understand under what timeframe a tumor is actually of concern. What's so bad about having some false positives?


> What's so bad about having some false positives?

Having invasive surgery. Undergoing chemotherapy. The former is bad, the latter is basically a 'lets hope it kills the cancer before it kills you' situation.

It's arguable which one is worse, but I'd rather not have to ever partake in either of them again.


Ultrasound can also detect (some) kidney stones before they start moving and become painful, allowing an assessment of whether a medical intervention is useful or necessary. When I used to get kidney stones more frequently, there was a year or so when my doctor sent me for an ultrasound every few months to try to detect them in advance (!).

I think this is currently seen as too expensive to do for people who have lower risk, but I mention it as an example of something that one could check for more routinely given much cheaper ultrasound scans.

Prophylactic ultrasound exams are also apparently much more plausible on medical cost/benefit than prophylactic CT exams, because the CT exams very slightly increase one's cancer risk (https://xkcd.com/radiation/), where ultrasound doesn't.

(At a friend's doctor's suggestion, I started taking alkali citrate supplements and switched from almond milk to oat milk; I now apparently rarely get kidney stones.)


There's no reason that ultrasound imaging equipment needs to be expensive. Overall the parts are pretty cheap. I think everyone should have one next to their toothbrush. Whole body ultrasound scans would also be useful, although harder to place inside everyone's homes.

This is the most "getting high on your own supply" I have ever seen.

What the hell are they talking about. This is no way real and a late April fools joke right? Right?


Not a joke, they really think that doing billions of full body scans will reduce healthcare costs and make people less anxious.

Any scientist not on the payroll will tell you the opposite. You will get millions of false positives, causing anxiety and unnecessary interventions. This has been studied extensively and we have the stats.

I too wish I could just jump into a machine every month and it declares me free of cancer. Instead it will find new irregularities every time with no easy way to confirm it's benign. This idea does not work.


Surely they have a paper or something on this?

I wonder if that includes discounts/commissions for enterprise api bundling (ie cheaper for partner company XYZ if they include openai in their app)

One of these two should be the main link tbh

The Zitrons was main link yeasterday. Most claimed it is nothing burger and Zitron bullshits, has nothing there and is annoying. Shrug.

> EDIT: Actually there's an enormous number of apps like this, many released very recently with similar style etc. Weird.

It's mostly just Devs copying apples feature, nothing too weird about it


You may be wrong here and Apple seems to be the one copying the feature. Someone mentioned KineStop in this thread and that's been around since 2018.

Been very impressed by the codex app tbh

I mean yes? It's the American government, and that's how us export controls work?

The point is that their argument doesn't make sense. It's not about jailbreaking, so stop lying about that shady reason. It's an export control, as you said, to benefit Americans.

AI is very good at "deflecting" support tickets ATM but rubbish at actual support tickets (source I work in the industry)

Honestly great video and surprisingly not even that old

Surprised that the legal drama part of this wasn't discussed, it's how I first heard about this

https://youtu.be/VARJnzhVryc


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