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first step to solving any problem is accepting that the problem exists.

"How to Safeguard U.S. Elections From AI-Powered Misinformation and Cyberattacks"

Well for starters, accept that social media is being manipulated in real time by AI to not just increase engagement, but also to manipulate users opinions for the agendas of whoever is paying.

Anywhere bots can emulate actual users, this is running rampant. Places like reddit are more bots than actual users.

Whatever happened to the huge bot problem that twitter had? Musk pointed it out then bought it and went all quiet on the subject. It's almost like after buying twitter, he learned the bots WERE twitter and with those, massive influence can be had.

AI is just a tool, the threat to democracy was when lobbying became legal.

Sorry to sound so defeatist-- until LITERALLY BRIBING is illegal, I hope no one expects change. The system is profitable and will resist all attempts to get away from how it is.

People are getting the best politics money can buy at this point.


if you're still using twitter at this point, malicious crypto ads are the least of your worries.


what are your worries?


Being part of, and tacitly validating, an ecosystem that welcomes Nazis, sex traffickers and the sort of people who abuse the bereaved parents of murdered children.


The World Wide Web has all of that...better not tacitly support it.


So does world. But we are talking about particular website.


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I took it to mean Alex Jones, since I have no idea who those people are and the links you give make no mention of a Twitter/X connection, much less a high-level connection like Jones has.

While with Alex Jones we have lawsuits which fit the description of "who abuse the bereaved parents of murdered children", like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones#Pozner_and_De_La_Ro...

> On April 16, 2018 Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa, parents of victim Noah Pozner, filed a defamation suit against Jones, Infowars and Free Speech Systems in Travis County, Texas.[254] Pozner, who has been forced to move several times to avoid harassment and death threats, was accused by Jones of being a crisis actor.

as just one example, and we have the high-level Twitter connection on the same Wikipedia page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones#Social_media_restri...

> In November 2022, Musk referred to Jones as a person who "would use the deaths of children for gain, politics or fame" and said Jones would not be unbanned.[119] He changed his position on December 10, 2023 when he reinstated Jones's account.


That was, indeed, one of the people I was referring to.


"The trains were designed to break if they sat idle for 21 days or if a GPS detected them at independent repair centers or competitors’ rail yards. Perhaps most interestingly, one of the analyzed trains had code in it that was supposed to artificially lock the train’s compressor on the seemingly arbitrary date of December 21; a NewAg train then actually had a compressor malfunction on December 21."

They need to sue because they're going to go out of business. This isn't DRM, it's just fraud.

Case in point: what else is there not yet discovered? I'm sure there's more.


probably yes, since they sold a lot of their trains in poland.


“We want to make sure that people know that the incident was very distressing to us. We can’t believe that it happened,” he continued. “I don’t think anything can really remedy this. We’ve been remunerated for the insurance value, but it’s not about the money. It’s about the preservation of American musical history and heritage.”

They sure are clutching pearls over something that supposedly isn't about the money. Of course, they only insured it for 40k by accident, but they did say it wasn't about the money, so it must not be about the money.

You know what they mean when they say it isn't about the money?

Its about the money. Thing was massively uninsured.

Personally I know nothing about guitars and as such, if I saw a replica in a movie versus the original, I would have no idea it was different. I think this is more about Terantino wanting the original to be used than about any potential viewer.

What would the outrage be, exactly, if it was discovered the one portrayed wasn't the original? None, that's what.

If the Martin Museum forever more will no longer lend musical instruments to all of hollywood.... oh well, I guess?

Somehow, we'll get by.


should have skipped a version

K9 is just a tad misleading. came here for cool tips on raising dogs. was very disappointed. k9 has nothing to do with canines, turns out.


I was thinking some sort of next-gen k8s. But nope. It’s a programming language that looks like:

    {x@(!#x)+\!#y}


These guys gotta get away from windows. The procedure of opening and closing your windows is just not a good idea at altitude.

Switch to Linux today :)


in 2024, "ruined lives" is often a bit of an exaggeration. I clicked into this thinking, did their paychecks get halted for a few weeks or months? That would just really suck if a programming bug caused so many people's finances to fall apart, though I'm not sure "ruined" would be the term I would use. But the article is not about that at all. Instead, all I can say is.. oh my.

"The stubbornness of the administration in trusting their technology impacted and ruining a number of lives: many of these people faced prison time, divorce, and suicide."

that is indeed good use of the term ruined lives. :(

to be accused of those crimes and convicted of them, when for sure they didn't happen. That is a very hard pill to swallow.


too short. keep going!! A lot of abuse results in PTSD. How will that manifest with online?

Through the use of llm's, bots now talk just like the people the llm's are trained off of. They have hobbies, opinions, they will aggressively and convincingly argue that they are not a bot and feel insulted to be called one.

They also cost non-insignificant resources to configure and operate, so how exactly a bot turns into revenue to pay for those resources is up for a lot of conjecture.

I just spotted another article on a similar topic earlier today on hn. It's over six years old, but you may find it relevant. I would imagine the art has changed significantly, and the horror stories have only grown.

https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-in...


extremely sobering. and also mirroring so many of my own personal feelings.

the article is now over 6 years old. I'll repeat what the author says-- I don't know what to think anymore.

It's like finding a glitch in the matrix at this point, when you think a "bot" is real, and the only indication it isn't is some mistake it's made that no human would ever make. Raving about the 0-60mph acceleration times on your new snowblower, for example. It all looks so real, until you see that part and realize without a doubt, this is fake. A brief mistake and you won't see it again as the system corrects itself.

A little piece of me dies every time that happens. I get a little more untrusting. I get a little more jaded and bitter. If abuse can happen on the net by seeing malign content, then PTSD is happening


I remember hearing stories of people traumatized as children by Happy Tree Friends, a cartoon series which appears to be child friendly at the beginning of each episode, but gets more and more violent and gory as they progress.

Parents trusted YouTube to keep their kids safe (first mistake) and YouTube dragged their feet on fixing the issue. It's not a "harmless" babysitter like a VCR that a toddler can rewind to watch Barney again, or a game console that can only play physically connected games. It's a portal to any personal hell you wish to choose and dropping the kids off and saying "be back in an hour" sounds risky.


Internet is slowly becoming a bizarre


very interesting.

unfortunately, it unintentionally describes what my last marriage was like. Nice to see the techniques all have a name. Not so nice to be under constant assault by people arguing in bad faith.

Early on in my marriage, my partner was tipsy one time and admitted to arguing any topic even if they knew they were wrong. Subsequent arguments were far worse, somehow, knowing that. which was perhaps the whole point?

6 months of marriage, 2.5 years of breaking up. that sums it up well.

I feel a lot of sympathy now for the people working to keep wikipedia on track. keep up the hard work.


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