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Phone cameras typically have IR filters that filter out that light. You need to modify the camera (or have an exceptionally cheap one?) to not have it filtered.

The alternative is…. They don’t have a job?

What else is going to happen?

For many people, the alternatives can literally be death, wading unprotected through human excrement, sold into defacto slavery, etc. etc.

AI can do some of it (now), but largely isn’t going to be more accurate and still needs humans to double check its work.


I actually had a conversation about this with my mom. We were talking about the hotel cleaners in Dubai walking around with toothbrushes to clean the shower which seemed mildly ridiculous to our European eyes.

But we came to the realisation that these folks were probably happy that they could send money back to their villages. And we left a nice tip.


I really don't think it's fair to minimize someone's struggles just because their situation could be worse. Is only the most miserable person on the planet (by what metric anyway?) allowed to complain about their condition?

I also don't think it's fair to exploit people who are in terrible situations by pushing jobs we don't want onto them, pay them a handful of crumbs, and then say they should be happy with what they get because their neighbor who does another job gets half a handful of crumbs.


The women in this situation aren’t complaining. Very much the opposite.

Why the compulsion to paternalistically ‘protect’ everyone even to the point of making them unemployed? I assume they weighed their options and decided this was the best one. It sounds like you want to stop them from doing that?

Isn’t that the real minimization?


You're misrepresenting both what the article says and what I wrote.

The article explicitly mentions that the jobs aren't clearly labeled so they couldn't weigh their options beforehand, that concerns raised by the workers are being dismissed by management, and that several workers have developed mental health problems.

I'm not arguing that these women should be "protected" by taking their jobs away or that they can't make their own choices; of course they're weighing their options and deciding accordingly (the article even mentions that some of them decided to leave). But it's not unreasonable to critique a system where the only choices they have are all horrible in (often more than) one way or another.


I’m responding to the gp comment, which I thought was obvious

There is plenty of productive work to do in the world that isn’t streaming through the dregs of the internet for hours on end.

This argument is a false dichotomy.


wow, this is absolute peak privilege of someone sheltered.

I take it you’ve never lived in India? Visited Pakistan or Bangladesh?

Plenty of people would (literally) kill for those jobs, and have no other useful employment.

In those countries, Women are often widely forbidden from doing most jobs, which makes them particularly vulnerable.


I very much doubt just the CIA, but that would be nice. :s

If you think the child porn is the worst part of this mess, I’ve got news for you.

We’d all be lucky if it was just distributing child porn.


Construction workers don’t get rest days.

Every one I know described the first two weeks as complete hell, until their bodies just stopped complaining.

But it still takes it’s toll long term.


It’s almost like it was done… as a team.

Where one side provided all the money, the other side provided the direction.

Both were necessary. Weird huh?


Also, when there are conflicts, who decides what the ‘facts’ are, eh?

is is the Gulf of America or not?


Nobody, you just mention the different points of view that are in the sources.

Which nobody does (really) because it turns into a giant narcissist shit fight then for who can come up with the most absurd ‘truthy’ answer for publicity.

Everyone has to end up filtering at some point or it’s all just noise.



Now imagine that for toilet paper over the top, or over the bottom, or sitting on top of the toilet tank. And everything in between.

We have plenty of bits, at least.


Also, management doesn’t have time to fully understand it, which means they need at least one employee who does. And that employee now has leverage.

Some people like blowing things up, even if it doesn’t necessarily make sense at the time.

Some people like building things, even if it doesn’t necessarily make sense at the time.

Some people like meeting other people and making money, etc, etc.

Know thyself.


It depends on what you’re doing. If you want to do an artsy hogtie real fast, those other options are kinda meh.

I don’t know. It feels like a really large zip tie would be hard to easily tighten, as in it would need a lot of force that you wouldn’t be able to easily put on it. Ratchet straps are the gold standard for this situation.

Applying too much force cuts off circulation and can lead to severe bad outcomes for the hogtieee.

Best is ‘firm and unyielding’ not ‘I can’t feel my hands anymore’. Easy enough to do in a few seconds with a big zip tie.


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