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> It's slightly unrealic idea though, as most of internet users are consumers, and that's the role they really prefer. That's why Dropbox gained popularity in spite of, you know, the fact that we all can do it with FTP.

Dropbox gained popularity because none of us can or want to bother to do it with FTP, with the exception of a very small and determined minority.

Why do you think that even FANG engineers use cloud storage systems such as Dropbox/iCloud/OneDrive/Google Drive/etc. Can't an elite software engineer put together a FTP server?

Why do you think Dropbox et al are still a thing in spite of projects such as Syncthing?

This is not the only instance where user experience and convenience show their value. Look at Docker, for example. The "aktually" crowd will be fast to say that anyone can do the same with chroot et al, but they will again be missing the whole point. It's the same thing why Microsoft tried to invest in Aspire even though Docker is here.

It's like complaining that people can buy bread when all they need to make their own is flour, water, salt, and yeast. That's completely besides the point, ain't it?


I think you're taking the "FTP" part a bit too literally here. No one's suggesting we'd jump in a terminal and type in FTP commands manually or even use the FTP protocol itself - we've got better options today, and we'd have even better options if the Internet had had global node-to-node connectivity all along.

It'd likely just be built into your operating system's tooling. Your file manager would be able to access other machines it can authenticate to, or you'd automount remote directories on login, etc.

The reason people use cloud storage systems for moving files around is because they have to. A 3rd party server is required because we don't have node-to-node connectivity.

Hell, we'd likely have had cloud storage options sooner because people wanting extra remote storage would totally have been a thing.


> At some point it clicked to me that crypto people don’t really care about the utility. Main purpose is creating new players in the world with immense amounts of power.

There are many types of crypto people. Some of them are not crypto people per se, but people who saw crypto as a means to an end. Among them, there are plenty of people who seem to be invested in sheer fraud.

It's also important to note that there are many sides to the scheme. There's for example the instant transactions side, and the long term bet in scarcity. For example, Russia has been leaning heavily on crypto to circumvent sanctions due to their invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2025/08/russias-use-of-...

> In the end, it did produce a lot of rich people out of thin air, and I guess, served its purpose.

It was not out of thin air. This is literally a grift where the people holding the bag saw their money find its way to the pockets of those who got rich from it.


>the people holding the bag saw their money find its way to the pockets of those who got rich

This is the key issue. Crypto by itself created little to no actual additional value. Especially when it devolved into just another centralized currency with less government oversight. So the whole thing was a zero-sum game. People only got rich because they made others poor.


Why would Russia need crypto, when they can trade with China or buy through middle men in Dubai or similar places ?

> Why would Russia need crypto, when they can trade with China or buy through middle men in Dubai or similar places ?

I'm not sure you understand how international sanctions work, particularly the scheme imposed on Russia.

For example, read up on Russia's rupee surplus

https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/india-russia-susp...


I KNOW how they work, i also know that many places IGNORE the idea of sanctions on Russia.

We all know that China for examples continue to trade freely with RU. There are many other examples of how Coca Cola sells a significant boost in numbers to border countries which are then driven across the border to RU. Everybody knows what is happening here, but nobody cares, business is business. Coke isnt the only one, far too many continue to trade even if its thru a middle man.

You can see a lot of vids on YT for example that show Russia supermarket shelves have more than enuff Coke and other brands, even though officially Coke is not trading with Russia in anyway.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/japans-taiyo-oil-rec...

google "dubai airbus spares smuggles"...


> id still argue they had a better standard of living than someone that works 8-10h/day and then comes home to cook and clean?

You're somehow succumbing to the fallacy of the edilic life of old.

The same life where you had to have a dozen of kids to overcome infant mortality, and each time a woman gave birth it was like a Russian roulette.

And the average life expectancy was what? 40 years? You didn't had a midlife crisis because you'd be dead by then.


Looking back at my family tree, before 1900 a third of the babies would die. My great grandmother and great great grandmother died in childbirth. A great great aunt also died in childbirth, and her brother went after the father with a shotgun.

Life expectancy was low mainly due to childhood diseases

If you lived to 20 you had a pretty good chance of making it to 70


> And the average life expectancy was what? 40 years?

The answer to this riddle lies in the previous paragraph


> Technology makes a lot of things better. Like eliminating symptoms of 95% of cystic fibrosis victims.

Counterpoint: any leaking abandoned oil well. Check out YouTube videos documenting the abandoned oil wells in West Texas, which are dumping industrial volumes of water into abandoned land.


> The games are fast and with much better, consistent payoff than other sports such as football and soccer.

Soccer is a slow burn where a game is always standing on a fragile equilibrium. Football and baseball are mainly boring because they are turn-based, with long periods of nothing happening between brief action moments.

Basketball is the only dominant US sports that matches soccer in terms of excitement and teams standing on a fragile equilibrium. Of course the NBA screws this up by stretching finals games into 7-game series, capping soccer-levels of excitement derived from winner-takes-all tournaments. It's no coincidence that NCAA tournaments manages to build up so much attention and such a dedicated following.


I just... don't agree. Every pitch in baseball is exciting and there are almost 300 thrown in an average game, even if most end up with no progress. Meanwhile I find "fragile equilibrium" games to be boring as hell to watch, there's hardly any progress being made! I don't want to watch an abstracted tug of war drawn out over 3 hours.

> It was hard to ask any question. Sometimes it felt if a few characters match it will be closed off as dupe.

I feel this is the critical bit. People are quick to dismiss this problem as a moderation problem, but I don't agree. I believe it was a query problem, and the absolute lack of support for tying both questions and answers to specific software versions, or range of software versions. So you'd see answers from ages ago marked as the right answer to a question, even though it was using some deprecated version.

Questions on how to address the same issue when new versions were out where closed as duplicates because literally the question was asked before and answered as well. But the answer nowadays would not be applicable.

Then to sidestep this problem you see the phenomenon where ancient questions end up having multiple answers, with newer answers even out voting the accepted answer. And even those would be deprecated as well.

So SO was designed as a system where a single question can only possibly have a single accepted answer. Ever. And anyone asking similar questions would by design be routed to he question that was asked and answered. But the system was designed over the concept of static information and static notion of truth. Which the world definitely doesn't follow.


> Those are entirely different operational models.

In some of the tinkering applications, RPis are shoehorned into the very operarional model that is followed by ESP32s.

ESP32s may be harder to debug but they allow us to remove a big chunk of the complexity that lies between our code and what we want the device to do.

I think your criticism is more in line with "they are not exactly the same as RPis". And that is fine.


> I think your criticism is more in line with "they are not exactly the same as RPis". And that is fine.

I chose my wording very intentionally. My criticism is exactly what I said.

It’s like comparing a bicycle to a light duty farm truck.


Yes, ESP32s are not exactly like RPis. And that is fine.

Do you need a full blown Linux desktop to blink a led light? Or drive a servo? Or even have a HTTP server? No.


I am not sure why you think those are the only things a cheap entry level computer for young hackers should be able to do.

> Even at 10€ it was tantalizing. Please, give us something in that price range.

A few years ago we could get our hands on a Orange Pi Zero, with wifi, Ethernet, and 512MB of RAM, for less than $10. I think I bought mine for slightly over $5.

Now they sell for a tad over $30. What a shame.

We now have the ESP32 line of microcontrollers. That should scratch some of the itches.


Is that a change in the valuation of the pi or of the dollar?

Covid shortages and RAMageddon changed the valuation.

> Is that a change in the valuation of the pi or of the dollar?

I believe that revenue maximization plays a role. So it's inflation in a way, but not the kind where bom costs are forwarded to consumers.


The dollar had just over 30% inflation since the start of COVID. But not all prices increased equally, for anything with RAM or NAND they skyrocketed in the past year.

Are they as well supported as the RPi? I heard software support was bad compared to the Raspberry Pis

Your best option is to look into Armbian (https://armbian.com/) for these, they do the Lord's work when it comes to making sure these alternatives aren't destined to be ewaste when vendors abandon them. I'd say Radxa are probably in 2nd place after Raspberry Pi when it comes to support, but Armbian still makes that a lot better.

They are two different things. You're not running a full blown Linux OS on the ESP32. But many of the simple projects people used the Pi for can be done with the ESP32.

Got mine for circa $7 a few years back. Absolutely best tiny computer I ever had. It sips power, and is rock stable for me. Only one issue: it doesn’t reboot for some reason, it shutdowns. I can tolerate that for $7. Apart from that, I’m very happy with that tiny beast. Got three of them. And at that price, I’d buy 10 more and give them for free for friends, already setup with some services. I just hope they’d go really cheap at some point, once the bubble bursts or something.

> The not so good ones, are doing the same bullshit they did before, but now the don't even bother to check it.

What bothers me greatly is how the not so good ones are now delegating all their contributions, code and otherwise, to AI assistants, and fail to to any cursory check in what they are delivering. It's sheer laziness and irresponsibility.

So far I've seen junior developers who found sudden passions for code reviews to post high volume of comments on any PR to showcase their technical prowess, but the comments clearly don't match the code or context and we're obviously posted without looking. I've also seen old but barely competent developers leaning quite heavily on AI assistants to formulate troubleshooting theories that are based on scenarios that deeply contrast with the actual problem, and go to the extent of announcing they identified root causes when they didn't even tried to reproduce them in the actual system, because if they had tried they would notice the whole theory is impossible.

Everyone talks about high productivity gains, but these types manage to use AI to waste everyone's time.


You're trying too hard to play the role of the "aktually" guy. Assuming good intentions and taking a pass at replying would have been a better contribution to the discussion.

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