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> Heck, I'd rather play that game with only other users over 18+ because I could swear and be more toxic.

Perhaps reexamine why you find it preferable to "be more toxic"


Basically, the game takes place in a medieval walled settlement. The person who's on the server the longest becomes the "leader" and gets to tax everyone/manage the settlement/build stuff. This is extremely profitable.

If the leader dies, the next person in line becomes the leader. Players can also buy swords and weapons.

This means the goal of the game, if you're ambitious, is gain power instead of actually contributing to the settlement. You could directly murder the leaders, but this is slow.

It is more efficient to incite an angry mob and make everyone extremely violent. Then leaders will get repeatedly murdered by the mob as the settlement burns down/devolves into chaos.

Unfortunately, everyone else wants power too. You'll take power and get killed by the angry mob you created.

Being toxic in an emulation of the late Roman Empire is essentially the game.

https://www.roblox.com/games/4598019433/generic-roleplay-gae...

I want to invoke my inner Catullus and insult my enemies but I am limited in what I can say in the presence of minors.


This comment itself comes across as so toxic, ironically - as if it’s somehow wrong to want to blow off steam in a way that isn’t appropriate for a nine year old to experience personally.

Edit: I swear it seems like infantilizing everyone is suddenly a goal for some reason. This has to be the most annoying personality type on the internet.


So adults having innocent fun together and perhaps "cussing" while in strictly 28+ game are somehow problematic to you? :D

Your comment is blowing something out of proportions. He prefers 25+, said so. Toxic in there means "F u", get a "F u and u'r mother" back and both persons laughs after. It's not toxic in the sense of "I will kill you and your entire family", but more like venting something in a safe space. You don't go in real life to a random stranger and say "F u", but in a lobby of a virtual game that's acceptable. And he's saying he prefer that since also going to a lobby full of 9 years old kids and saying that is way more toxic and he prefers the algorithm to actually match him with appropriate ones instead of throwing him in young lobbies and then cannot be able to speak with them. So clearly the algorithm is half baked, made communications worse and needs more tuning. Swearing is part of any culture in humanity, and there is a reason the among the first things you learn in a foreign language is swearing. Used wisely, that "toxicity" is actually a great tool to forge good relations.

Black cars show road dust immediately. White cars don't. I image it's similar for computer fans

White cars get filthy just as readily.

Does it? Not everything is a sign of deception.

Even if it is the case, and not simple an omission to focus the narrative, does it matter? Case fans pull what 4 watts? 5 watts? Who cares if it pulls 200 milliwatts more than a competitor when it's cooling a GPU and CPU that consume more than a hundred times what it can consume


>Case fans pull what 4 watts? 5 watts?

That's really high. Like usually they are 100-150mA (so sub 2W) Lots of controllers would be 1A max.

The tolerances are for noise mostly. I'd consider the noise (and longevity) the single most important part of fans (else most fans can spin close to 3k rpm and cool)


Very high. A Mac mini averages about 6w all up. Though with that fan it would sure run cool.

A mac mini uses a lot more than 6w under load. 2024 M4 base mac mini has a rated max of 65W[1] and the M4 more than doubles that number to 140w

1: https://support.apple.com/en-us/103253


Yup, but it rarely does that.

Transcoding multiple video streams, running a VM and running various other tasks, mine rarely passes 10, and is currently sitting at 7 (only 2 transcodes at this time).

It’s 30 day average is 5.


The question is not about saving milliwatts-hours on your electricity bill, it is about where these milliwatts are going.

One is heat, heat is not great, it puts more stress on components, mechanical and electrical, reducing longevity.

Another, maybe more important is noise. The power that goes into making noise is power that is wasted, noise is inefficiency, and reducing noise is an efficiency problem.


Tighter tolerance isn't universally a good thing. It might make the fan more susceptible to damage due to mishandling or dust. They might be selling a fan that has a shorter useful life for no real benefit.

I take it you've never dealt with Noctua for warranty issues (or any issues).

They go above and beyond.


As a physicist, it's not at all clear to me that tighter tolerances would lead to higher efficiency or less noise. I assume it shakes out in the CFD simulations, but I would be curious to know the explanation.

I thought the primary gain in efficiency came from the large blades, with the blade shape the next most important factor. Gaps between the blade and housing feels like a single-digit percent effect.


The specific fan in question has a rated max power draw of 1.8 W. In actual deployments it's going to be a lot less since ~nobody is running a noctua fan at 100% speed unconditionally

"In actual deployments it's going to be a lot less since ~nobody is running a noctua fan at 100% speed unconditionally"

I run dual 36w Delta fans at 100% in my computer case. I use the outflow as positive pressure forced exhaust for my enclosed CO2 laser, which itself has an ultra-weak venting fan.

It isn't that loud. A simple no box does the trick.


Yeah, but those aren't noctua fans. Noctua's claim to fame is being lower noise, not moving the most air. I'm sure somebody is buying a premium low noise-focused fan and then pinning it to max, but that's definitely not going to be typical.

which is why you went with Delta and not Nocturna I would think? Deltas are fine in an otherwise noisy environment but they’re misery in say a bedroom at night.

Case fans pull what 4 watts? 5 watts? Who cares if it pulls 200 milliwatts more than a competitor when it's cooling a GPU and CPU that consume more than a hundred times what it can consume

Yes, exactly. The high precision is marketing, not something needed in the product.


My understanding is that the precision is supposed to help with noise. Less turbulence, etc.

FWIW, in my setup (10th gen i5, RTX 5070 Ti in an old Define R3 case), the 12 cm Noctua G2 fans run quieter and have a much less obnoxious noise than the old P/F series, which wipe the floor with the Arctic fan I bought for a computer that lives in the basement and sounds like it's about to take off.


A 5 pack of arctic pwm fans was 25€. I was considering noctua but the G2 fans were always delayed. But I doubt I would have paid 150-200€ for 5 fans.

They do have the most insane pricing. I could see myself buying some in the 15€ range but not 35€.


You lead me to believe that they are targeting a niche "audiophile" market and probably not a commercial market. The concern in the commercial market would be energy savings vs. capital expenditure. Some commercial spaces actually introduce white noise into spaces to increase occupant density.

They are targeting people who want nearly-silent fans for computing devices and will pay considerably higher than average prices for them. I have several of them, and they are vastly quieter than the competition. Wouldn't be worth it in a commercial space, but I want my house to be quiet.

In my experience fans from manufacturers like Arctic can be almost as quiet similar Noctua, but cost 50% less. The difference definitely isn't vast for most models, although admittedly there's more QC issues and variation than with Noctua.

A lot of Noctua sales come from their brand value. People put Noctua fans into their gaming PC's, use headphones while gaming on them, and then turn off the PC. You don't really need the most silent fan for that, but people buy them anyway for the looks & premium quality.

I do love Noctua's coolers though, I appreciate the well thought design, manuals and free upgrade kits when you upgrade your system to a new socket type. But for case fans I'll jut buy Arctic and save money, except for things like server systems that run 24/7 in my bedroom where noise and durability are top priority.


> except for things like server systems that run 24/7 in my bedroom where noise and durability are top priority

... which is why I only have a few of them, rather than replacing the fans in everything I own. But for the things that need them, there's just nothing else as good.


They target people that want quiet/silent cases, obviously not commerical, unless you're going after the long life/warranty service. Or you go for their industrial line.

Audiophile products are a known scam.

This is an enthusiast product, as evidenced by the premise that you care about color-coordinating the inside of your computer.


Where's the next quarter margin in that?

Tell that to Delta's data center

Until people/animals eat it, or it decomposes. Not saying this like we should ignore the co2 impact from data centers, but biomass is a pretty poor co2 absorber unless its cyano and falls to the ocean floor before decomposing

> Until people/animals eat it, or it decomposes.

Well, if you want to think about it that way (perfectly reasonable), you'd also want to consider the production of new alfalfa. Figure that at any given time, the world contains X amount of alfalfa, and that amount determines how much carbon is absorbed by the alfalfa industry.


I'm not sure any carbon is absorbed even by this metric. Unless were growing alfalfa and sequestering it below ground.

You should probably also consider inputs to growing that alfalfa too. Even single order inputs like transportation, fertilizer, water, etc would likely have more carbon release than the carbon mass of the alfalfa.

Is alfalfa even one of the plants that will nitrogen fix from the air? Or is it all pulled from the growing medium?


There's no shortcut to knowledge and wisdom. But there are a whole lot of sidepaths that don't lead to either.

Pray tell, what speech do cameras make?

The same one that I make when I stand somewhere and describe what I see. So I hold a camera to do it more accurately. And then I get tired so I mount the camera on a trip setup instead.

I'm still not hearing any speech from the camera doing the recording. Can you tell me specifically, how recording with a camera is speech?

ACLU of IL v. Alvarez (2012): "The act of making an audio or audiovisual recording is necessarily included within the First Amendment’s guarantee of speech and press rights as a corollary of the right to disseminate the resulting recording."

this is reminding me of the dearly departed website and news outlet Photography Is Not a Crime. Carlos Miller a name worth remembering.

What is your definition of speech? It seems like you are defining it literally.

My recording of police interactions is free speech, for example.

My recording my property is free speech.

My taking a camera into public spaces and recording is free speech.


Depends on what I'm trying to do. I don't need your whole life story, Sarah, about how this recipe reminds you of your great aunt's second cousin's half sister's second home balcony plants. I'm just trying to figure out what seasoning blend makes up blackening spice. I'm not even here for the meatloaf recipe, just the spice blend.

9 times out of 10 I'd listen to Sarah's stories. Is buying a spice blend really so urgent and important? So much of life is lived incidental to transactions. Not everything improves with productivity.

I just want to get back to my bbq and be with friends, where the interaction means something to me.

Surely and AI company wouldn't exaggerate. Thats securities fraud!

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