Alternative Vote is not Proportional Representation. And to be very clear, liberal democrat MPs, including Nick Clegg, were photographed with signed papers saying that if they were ever in government they would abolish tuition fees. A cynical ploy to win university constituencies.
That said, the country was reeling from the 2008 banking crisis, that even with a competent PM in Brown (despite his 'ignorant woman') comment was leading a Labour government into its 14th year. Even then David Cameron only won a minority government. If the lib dems hadn't backed the Tories into office, very likely we would have seen a second general election within short order.
> And to be very clear, liberal democrat MPs, including Nick Clegg, were photographed with signed papers saying that if they were ever in government they would abolish tuition fees.
I am well aware, I was in a libdem constituency as they made those promises in the early part of the 2000s. I think its even in one of the uni newspapers.
But the issue is this, government is about compromises. The libdems compromised to get in power. They had a "contract" that allowed for certain policies to be put forward in exchange for other policies by the tories. They thought, nievely that they could contain the worst parts of the osbourne/cameron system in exchange for long term voting reform.
It was a gamble that failed, and they were roundly punished for it.
The problem for us is that labour imploded, which left us with no effective opposition the post libdem years.
Its all very well to say "its a cynical ploy" but given that coalitions outside of war are never a thing in UK politics, its hard to see how the libdems planned it.
I can understand that you are angry about tuition fees. the unforgivable bit was the loan system rather than a graduate tax. Its regressive, it was known to be regressive at the time. But the tories wanted a loan and thus, here we are.
Crazy that I had to still defend him in one of the posts when I mentioned cf vs italy. but in no way or form I endorse cf
I do have my domain name in them but I have been lazy to migrate out with cf tunnels but I definitely hope that I can have courage to muster to migrate my domains and cf tunnels alternative and everything.
Edit: Looks like we were talking about the same thing, y'know what's crazy is that there are some points in which I can justify cloudflare but in no way or form should they try to speak the rheoteric or something.
Like just call spade a spade and we can understand it that in this case italy is wrong but the fact that he had to speak in the rheoteric or even spoke in first place is why I also don't really like cloudflare & think that the internet should move away from 12% traffic being in cloudflare
Hope that I am able to explain that italy vs cf, I feel like italy's in the wrong but overall cf with its CEO rheoteric is wrong too and as you mention, he isn't above kissing the ring and we probably need alternatives too.
The 'simplest' method is to allow landowners to declare the value of the land they own. Tax based on this value and let governments buy at the stated land value. Everything else is fluff.
Only allowing government repurchase makes the system vulnerable to corruption - make a backroom deal with a government official and extract a promise not to buy, then declare at $1. A system where anyone can purchase the property at the declared value is more robust.
A master blacksmith can shoe a horse an' all. Laser alignment is also a solved problem with a machine. Just because something can be done by hand does not mean it has any intrinsic value.
That said, the country was reeling from the 2008 banking crisis, that even with a competent PM in Brown (despite his 'ignorant woman') comment was leading a Labour government into its 14th year. Even then David Cameron only won a minority government. If the lib dems hadn't backed the Tories into office, very likely we would have seen a second general election within short order.