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BTP say [0] that "the images and biometric data of those who don’t cause an alert are automatically and immediately deleted." - if that's true, they shouldn't be able to tell that it's the same faces being scanned multiple times so it has to be 500k total scans rather than, say, 500k unique faces across 2 million scans

[0] https://www.btp.police.uk/police-forces/british-transport-po...


They're being very specific about images and biometric data, and they're weaseling those words for a reason. If they deleted all data about such scans, they'd say that.

To do the lookup they're still hitting a database somewhere to know you aren't a concern, which is prime time to log that you were seen, when, and where. Then your "images and biometric data" can be "immediately deleted" since they've gotten anything else they want now.

This is just a theory, but I bet I'm not far off.


You could still delete while maintaining the ability to tell if a face has been seen before, by using some fingerprinting + one way hash function


that’s not deleting the data then. making people play Only Connect to parse out weasel phrases is akin to lying by omission. they say the same thing at US airports which is why I still opt out of the face scan at security. of course they keep hashes of the image and its features otherwise what’s the point


It is deleting data, but you are right that it isn't all the data


The sentence says "the [...] data [...] are automatically and immediately deleted". It does not say "some of the data are automatically deleted". It would be a staight lie to delete some, but not all, of the data and then issue the statement that "the data are deleted". This is not an ambiguous case or weasel-wording: it is an unambiguous falsehood.

If you have two coins and you spend one, you cannot truthfully say "I spent the coins". The definite article "the" means all of something you have in this usage, not a single member of a class of something you have. It would be true to say "I spent a coin" or "I spent some of the coins".


The sentence says "...the images and biometric data...are automatically and immediately deleted". It doesn't say that the information they learned by using the images and biometric data that they collected, such as your name, location, the timestamp etc is being deleted. Who you are and where you were at what time isn't an image and isn't your biometric data.


The data necessary to determine a face had previously been seen are biometric data.


If the name/address is already in the “already seen” list, wouldn’t that be enough to determine the face had already been seen? Or are you saying the name/address should be considered biometric data?


We have no reason to believe a given face is linked to a person's name by this system.


It isn’t exactly like coins, because data is both singular and plural.


If we're going to be precise, the word "data" is plural and its singular is "datum". But treating it as a substance noun does not change the argument I made in any way - "I gave away the water" does not mean "I gave away some of the water (and kept some for myself)".


This looks really promising. Very snappy.

I might be missing it but there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of Illustrator's direct selection tool, for moving individual anchor points? There's the anchor point tool for adjusting the curve of an anchor point, but I can't move the anchor points themselves. I expected to find it under the pen tool menu.


for moving point by point you should select pointer tool (A) then click on the path after that you can move each pixel separetly; Thanks for letting me know the UX issue, I make it easier to access


I think they mean the Filter > Render > Clouds feature in Photoshop rather than local vs cloud


you can't reason with a vibe coding bot


firstly I'm not a bot! I didn't understand the question correctly. Anyway thanks for pointing the gap, I will look into it


Not unless you happen to own 0.9.2.e164.arpa, 6.4.2.e164.arpa, and 7.4.2.e164.arpa: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49387570


Where else would they be calling on Diego Garcia apart from the military base?


Are they still dumping Tamils there?


You might be thinking of Nauru. Different island.


No, it's definitely Diego Garcia - UK sometimes uses it as a holding pen for asylum seekers.

Of course Diego Garcia doesn't have the ability to accept or process asylum applications.

It's a very British trap.


They're usually done with SVGs or CSS pseudoelements (a clip-path polygon or borders and rotation) rather than Unicode arrows


Exactly, text content goes in a <span>, icon is an <svg>, flex align items center on the wrapper gets you close, nudge the icon to perfection with transform: translate


And then the line wraps.


Alright I’ll take the bait, flex shrink none on the svg, white space no wrap on the text



If my experience of playing Overcooked is anything to go by this may well result in bloodshed


If so that'd be great product feedback too :D!

In all serioiusness: in my experience the outcome is sort of the opposite of Overcooked. A genuinely tranquil cooking-together experience!


Google's design blog has a particularly egregious version of this: https://design.google/

The mouse blob morphs into the background of any buttons you hover over, which is technically impressive but annoying in practice


Wow, so much for "Google Design". It's probably one of the worst designed pages I've seen recently.


I thought, how bad it could be? It's actually very annoying since it doesn't even follow your mouse acceleration profile, the fancy cursor just does its own thing. It's a minor inconvenience, but very jarring at first.


wow, this is one of the worst pages I've seen


Wow i didn't know Google did this as well, that's pretty sad.


He posts on his Instagram to verify authenticity: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXwf7pis6KT


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