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I was equally confused. I thought it was some USA/Canadian phrase I'd never encountered before but it seems like it's another reference to Tiger King (in addition to the one in the title).

Apparently, people suspect Carole Baskin for murder based on a comment she made about covering someone in "sardine oil or something they want to eat". [1]

Even now I understand it, it still sticks out as an odd phrase to use.

  [1]: https://www.sausageroll.com.au/entertainment/shows/did-carole-baskin-confess-to-the-murder-of-her-husband-on-tiger-king/


Skimming the list, it does seem very heavily dominated by US local news sources.


Instapaper is sort of the only site where it's an actual problem. I get the feeling that the rest are just running on some common platform, which have the feature of being able to block the EU after some US corporate lawyer overreacted.


> after some US corporate lawyer overreacted

Given how US techies here on HN seems to constantly overreact and loudly proclaims how the GDPR means they need to hire 20 new employees and how they all will be suited into bankruptcy anyway...

If they are now stuck in a needlessly rigid legal regime, it's hard NOT to say they brought it on themselves.


My first thought was the Fenix twitter app.


I think the point on linguistic imperialism was referring to things like the Welsh Not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not


I can remember a girl in a class when I was at school in the late 70s being asked a question by a teacher and she clearly had been day dreaming a bit so replied "fit?" (i.e. "what?"). The teacher got very angry and threw a wooden blackboard cleaner at her head which just missed by a few cm.

I can also remember some kids getting far worse treatment in primary school for slipping into dialect (e.g. one chap who mispronounced something was told by the teacher to look at the blackboard more carefully so he went right up to it and the teacher went behind him and slammed his head into the blackboard).

[Edit: I should have said "loonie" rather than "chap" - a "loon" being a boy, a "loonie" a young boy - similarly "quine" and "quinie" for girls and young girls - aye it's a sair fecht ;-)]


I always got the impression that Lotus Notes was a great idea, but very poorly implemented. The concepts in it were good, it was just a shame it inflicted so much suffering.


I still wish for a widely-deployed replacement for Notes/Domino.

Sure, I can build CRUDish apps with Django, but there are simple use-cases that take me a week with Django, that would have been a day with Notes. It's crazy that things are slower for me 20 years later. I'm pretty sure I'm not dumber now.


Does Filemaker Pro solve that problem?


I have never used it, but it's no longer available as of last month:

http://www.filemaker.com/products/filemaker-pro/

"FileMaker Pro is no longer available. It has been replaced by FileMaker Pro Advanced which includes more features to help you develop and deploy custom apps faster and more efficiently."


IIRC, File Maker Pro Advanced is basically FileMaker Pro with additional features enabled. You would be able to use that in its place, but it might have a higher price tag.


What aspects of Lotus Notes seemed like a good idea? Genuine question. I remember being horrified by almost everything about Lotus Notes. Sametime was great, though.


I'll bite...

1 - Document Store (iirc, CouchDB was inspired by Notes/Domino)

2 - Replication - even past the 90s, it was one of the best tools for disconnected users

3 - Low barrier to application creation (it was about as easy as building something in Filemaker Pro)

4 - Easy publication of applications to the web (this was BEFORE 2000, so kind of a big deal back then)

5 - Administration of servers was pretty easy

6 - LotusScript (similar to vba) let you go much further than the prebuilt formula language (if you were willing to learn it)

Keep in mind, these benefits were available pre-2000, and in that time many were strong competitive advantages.


Replication was huge, we didn't even have an internet connection when I setup a application replicating between three suppliers and a bank.


Yeah, when I first started to use Notes, using modems over POTS lines to call HQ was still a thing, so that replication was a big deal.

Hell, I don't even think all laptops had ethernet ports back then either. In a lot of cases, you had to buy PCMCIA cards for that.


I realized how great Sametime was after I was forced to move to Skype for Business. The meeting functionality wasn't great but there were other great features. I sorely miss the button that allowed you to drag a rectangle on your screen and it would automatically send the resulting screen capture as a message. Not as an attachment that you had to open up, an actual image in the chat. Why can't skype figure that out!?


In summary:

* The latest version of Java will always be free to download.

* There will be new versions every 6 months with zero overlap.

* LTS versions are available every 3 years, but only for paying customers


Also, once you get to Java 11, you need to either pay for the LTS version or be prepared to update Java every 6 months with no overlap.

Because of the increased release cadence, there is also no guarantee that there won't be breaking changes between LTS versions. (Java 9 already became the first Java release ever to actually remove deprecated classes, although in a very minor way).


Older Eclipse based software does not work with Java 9.


I guess what you're really asking there is "is Oracle litigious?"


I just wonder if it's about some business JDK (different from personal JDK) or I'm just forbidden to download updates from Oracle website after January 2019 for business use? Can I stay on latest available JDK 8 update then?

It just sounds strange that I must restrict myself from upgrading. If someone wants to protect its software from unauthorized use, they use electronic licenses, expiration, etc.


Traditionally, Oracle make their software available to anyone with a development license, meaning you are not allowed to use it in production for commercial use. This isn't so unusual, Red Hat's JBoss can be freely downloaded, but you need to click accept on a license agreement.

What this means is that there is nothing to stop you from using the software for commercial purposes, but you need to be prepared for a visit from Oracle's lawyers.


Often, these kinds of migrations are the only option due to previous cost cutting/money saving decisions - likely due to pressure from the business and nothing to do with any technical reason.

I remember one migration which involved lots of internal services which were all tightly coupled, meaning updates across the whole backend, not just the part that needed it and no way to do a phased rollout. It was made worse by the fact that the update was to the platform and that depended on a DB upgrade, but that upgrade was incompatible with the old version which meant everything had to be done at once.

They had no disaster recovery plan. They got it done, but I'm sure a lot of people involved went grey early thanks to that nightmare.

Of course the business had no idea of the utter mess that caused all of this and continued to make harmful decisions in the name of saving money and further underfunding the IT department.


Even with tightly coupled systems, ultimately it's all bits on the wire. You can always develop shims or intermediaries to perform a phased migration with rollback options. Of course that takes time and costs money, which is why some people take the damn the torpedoes approach.


Fair general point. (Though it is often - if not always - possible to do some sort of dual-running, to mitigate risk. Albeit at much greater expense.)

In the specific case of TSB, I have my suspicions about the reasons for cutting corners in this migration, given: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/missed-deadlines-leave-1m...


It's come a long way. I was aware of Codenvy years ago and recently became aware that they seem to have joined the Eclipse Che effort.

The main thing missing from Che, for me, was a lot of nice, easy plugins to deploy to cloud services. You can run your app in the container very easily, but it would be nice to be able to push to, say, Heroku right from the IDE.

Apparently Red Hat have acquired Codenvy now, so it will be interesting to see if they add some integration for OpenShift (their own repackaged Kubernetes).


I'm the project lead for Che and can confirm that Red Hat will be contributing changes that will allow Che to run on OpenShift, but it will also roll in most of the enterprise features that were previously only available in the proprietary licensed Codenvy product. https://www.eclipse.org/che/


We're just starting to analyze Che for our coding school. Wouldn't all this just be possible with the Terminal? I'm not saying plugins aren't good, just trying to see if the terminal is a full featured one that would support something like, for example, installing the heroku toolbelt.

I haven't even started with a real test, just reading about it, so sorry for my lack of research, I'm just reading through the features (https://www.eclipse.org/che/features/) and saw the terminal, which is fundamental for us.


> It's come a long way. I was aware of Codenvy years ago and recently became aware that they seem to have joined the Eclipse Che effort.

As I understand, Codenvy didn't “join” the Eclipse Che effort, Eclipse Che started with code that Codenvy extracted from their proprietary product and open sourced, and most of the Che developers were and are Codenvy (now RedHat) employees.


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