In my opinion (which might not be shared by everyone) this is a you problem. Developers in the team not using decontainers should not have to worry about your environment. ide/local-env stuff should be ignored in the users git setup, everything that the repo creates (build artifacts, environment files etc) should be in the repo.

> Excluding harmful content

#define(HARMFUL)

[edit] Downvoters please tell me what the problem is with specifying this?

I didn't down vote you, but you aren't really adding anything to the conversation. This type of pithy comment might be fun on Reddit, but at HN, we try to provide more constructive, and information rich, comments.

The proof is that you Google this right now and find multiple corroborations across the web from today.

large enterprises dont pay openai or anthropic, they get this thing called copilot and get a nice price there. At least on this side of the pond (eu)

this. I have been running FreeBSD for over a decade, but not on my laptop.

Check out the project called superpowers. It can use different models for different agents. I use it witb opencode to have different models for reaearch, planning, execution, testing etc

the problem is not the model, but the infrastructure needed to run the model. so yeah, gpus, cpus, network, etc etc

Power is 2-3x as expensive in Europe than American. They're toast.

> Power is 2-3x as expensive in Europe than American. They're toast.

Europe is not Germany.

Electricity price is 2-3x times more expensive in Germany.

Electricity price for electricity intensive professional is around 12-14cts/kWh in France and can be reduce under 10cts/kWh for big consummers.

Which is competitive with the cost in several US states (it is still higher than Texas but not 3x).

Nordic countries should be able to align on that too.

Electricity price in Germany for industries was ~16,7ct/kWh in 2026, special ones pay 11-12ct today and will pay a capped 5ct soon.

> will pay a capped 5ct soon.

Make sense.

Production price in Europe is between 3.5-4.5cts/kwh averaged. The rest are mainly transport and taxes.

If the EU currently choose to exonerate industrial consummers from these taxes and offload them on citizen (which honestly make sense from a business perspective), they could currently beat most US states in term of pricing while providing lower carbon footprint/kWh

The cost of power is pretty much irrelevant. The TCO of an AI datacenter is dominated by the capex. Over the lifetime of a DC, the capex will be 10x higher than all the opex combined.

Power matters, but what matters is power availability not cost.

it's actually about the same in most countries, solar and wind is coming down in price every single day. germany is an outlier at this point.

It's not. France: €0.149/kWh (~$0.175) US: ~$0.12–$0.14/kWh https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/France/electricity_prices...

also, it's very much possible that the chinese companies get heavy investments from the state. Since it's very hard to get this info we have no idea wether they really make a profit or not.

I agree, and find that very plausible. I mean, for the CCP a few billions to subsidize domestic AI companies is a tiny investment with a potential huge payoff. It prevents (or at least make it harder for) US companies to build a monopoly on LLM tech and it could help popping the bubble which would weaken the US economy. In fact, if I remember correctly, the AI infrastructure build-out is what is keeping the US from a technical recession.

The R&D is of course subsidized but a lot/most(?) of these inference providers are not Chinese

If the Chinese companies are subsidized anyone who wants to compete with them has to match their price.

if all the resources spent in useless wars were poured into working towards this goal, we would be there for some time already

Sure, but we should probably plan for what’s actually going to happen

Ppl want developers to work for free. Especially here on hn