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Its not as if it even helps since the numbers can be leaked and stolen and then abused & the situation ends up even worse since it is so centralised.


Identity numbers being abused is a consequence of them being misused. And as far as I can tell, this happens more often with american SSNs than anywhere with actual national identity numbers.

All that these numbers do is uniquely identify people. They aren't private. To actually prove your identity, you present your ID, passport, or a digital signature tied to that identity number.


The abuse only happens because US courts deemed a third party liable for a lender’s error/cost cutting in attempting to verify a borrower’s identity.


You’re talking about different things. Sweden has personal identity numbers and they’re public information. It protects you from being mixed up with someone with the same name. Not from identity theft though.


Making them explicitly public is better than the US situation where they’re treated like a password - a password you can’t change if it gets disclosed, and that lots of people feel entitled to get.


In most countries you cant do anything with a single number id of a person. Except ironically the US so youre doubly so off.


Unique identifiers should be public. There shouldn’t be any leaking.

That also means they should be used simply as an identifier and not as any for of authentication or secret knowledge.


We just need untheivable unlosable numbers /i


It helps. Period.


What is your business. Probably it is dodgy


Nothing dodgy at all. Niche ecommerce, household goods. Very uncontroversial product.


Do you have the link. In the past people have said this on HN and its common, personalised, etc. Then you look at it and the issue is clear.

If it is uncontroversial Stripe will probably likely your account, otherwise you're out of luck you wont get much sympathy here.


Isnt Deepseek Pro 4 cheaper? Also far above 4o


Because no one wants Elons opinions in their vibe coded app. And also that the data isnt used against ZDR or other reasons on cutting corners as XAi is more desperate than other labs.

Whether its true or not its the perception, so people avoid the model.

They've also not figured out networking Fabric yet so the models are poor


is the networking fabric the reason models are poor?


I wouldn't say thats the reason they're poor. Thats the reason xAI is behind. Everyone is at varying degrees to the frontier especially with Sota. The grok model is decent


Can't work legally speaking. There has to be a single sponsoring member state. Just sadly how the EU is designed.

The only way would be to copy it individually so it is the same in each member state which breaks the purpose of it.


this isn't fully true

yes you company needs to be rooted in a specific country, and sure moving company roots between countries is still not always trivial (anti capital flight laws are a thing). But that isn't really in conflict with a EU INC per-se. I mean they do point out that it will have

> Local taxes & employment

and this isn't in conflict with

- the same business form being available in all EU members

- central EU registry

- Standardized investment documents ( * this is only investment documents, not e.g. tax documents)

- Standardized EU-wide stock options

- For every founder ( * with some limits)

Like there are already some "EU level" business models, e.g. you company can operate as a Societas Europaea (SE). Now a SE is for other use-cases so not really the same at all (it's more like the EU version of a German GmbH), but it shows that things "in that direction" are very much viable.


> - Standardized investment documents

All investments I took part of implied a lot of back and forth on conditions adapted to the specific case, preferences, fears, etc. I have doubts that "standardization" can be reasonable achieved here.

> - Standardized EU-wide stock options

EU does not have attributions on tax, it's the national governments that do (see https://european-union.europa.eu/priorities-and-actions/acti...).

The issue with stock options are that they are taxed, so you will have to consider each country in particular.

Maybe you would like for EU to have tax responsibilities, but I wouldn't jump to that without thinking about the implications. As an example the Euro monetary union without a fiscal union can causes issues already (for some explanations check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_union).


the proposal itself, and my comments, say no tax will be on country basis, that doesn't block standardized stock options. It just means that on monetization events taxes you pay on stocks might differ (they anyway will depending on where you live independent on anything on the company side).


I hope someone talked with lawyers that know what can be done.

I would love a (more) unified system (tax, rules, etc.). Multiple organizations/think-tanks recommended more unified systems for the EU on this topics.

The problem is if it does not fall under the EU competences it will be hard to implement at that level. To quote:

> While the businesses and objectives targeted by the 28th regime are specified to some extent, it is unclear which firms would specifically have access to it, and which aspects of the business code would be covered. The competences of the EU are likely to constitute boundaries in this respect.

source: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2025/7792...

In a way, it's like programming. The difficult part are the exceptions, corner cases or unplanned interactions. Countries are very reluctant to give up control over some topics (tax being one of them) and they also have lawyers.

I welcome any help entrepreneurs can receive. But after trying it a couple of times (software stuff, might be a specific case) I personally didn't find the rules for creation/tax were that of a problem, compared to the requirements that in many other instances I felt were imposed to the newly/newlish formed enterprise (ex: want to apply to a project? you have to have existed for 3 years; want that subsidy? you need to show us you are having X partners) to lower the risk for the existing (public and private) organizations.


> anti capital flight laws are a thing

Hmm - any examples of this applying intra-EU? That feels like a violation of the free movement of banking services.


> violation of the free movement of banking services

Isn't the same as freely moving the jurisdiction under which a company exist.

It also mostly applies to cash/legal tender but most wealthy peoples wealth is only in small amounts in cash.

Technically relevant laws are also often not classified as "capital flight" laws per-se, but are very close to it.

E.g. in Germany there is a "Wegzugsteuer" (~moving away from Germany Tax), which only applies to "hidden/unrealized reserves". When you leave Germany (~for good, kinda, it's complicated) the tax treats them as if you sold them, i.e. you have to any tax you would have to pay if you had sold them. "Hidden reserves" include stuff like you owning more then 1% of a company, certain investment founds, crypto currency, etc.. So while it's not a capital flight law as it doesn't affect cash (weather digital or physical) it is very similar to it.

(clarifications: yes in EU crypto currency is not a legal tender, i.e. it's treated more like gold. You still can use them to buy things as you can buy things based on an exchange of goods if all involved parties agree to it. Similar for a lot of the things covered by the law it's possible to sell them for very low taxes under the right circumstances, so if you don't move very spontaneously you have a lot of ways to largely reduce this tax.)


Weird. Seems to work for Airbus, Allianz, BASF, E.ON, Fresenius, LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton (and its subsidiary Dior), SAP, Schneider Electric, TotalEnergies, Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield and Vonovia.

Of course, that's the existing pan-European SE which is a public company. Needs like a few sentences changed in the existing regulation to extend that to private companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas_Europaea


This is very different. In a SE these are incorporated and sponsored by the member state. It is like each country making an equivalent copy of the same thing.

The EU-INC is EU designated without a sponsor, which is not permissible under EU law other than for the EU institutions themselves. This is one of the red lines for the design of the EU legally speaking


An SE is incorporated under EU law, and it has a headoffice registered in a member state - and that registration can be moved to another member state. Like GDPR, the relevant law is an EU "regulation" and not a directive. Directives need to be implemented in local laws, regulations apply directly (local laws may fill in details as long as they don't contradict or restrict the regulation, except of course where the regulation explicitely allows derogation). https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

What do you mean by "sponsored by the member state"? Can you point to the exact regulation, treaty or directive that imposes this requirement?


This is the basic Maastricht treaty. You cannot make EU law in France without France creating it not as EU law, but as French law. A SE or EU-INC would have to exist within this construct.

The only exception to a legal entity are the EU entities themselves which are supranational.

This is what most people don't understand with the EU, that there is a very specific process to create law and limitations on what it can do. It isn't like the US and the EU isn't a country. I may appreciate you might be European but even within Europe the detail with it is where it matters.


Article 288 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union "A regulation shall have general application. It shall be binding in its entirety and directly applicable in all Member States." - for example, GDPR.

But even if this were implemented using a Directive (note: the SE is created in a Regulation, that's the link in my previous comment), this still would not mean that the law or the directive would necessarily need to require a company to be "sponsored" by a specific state - whatever that means. (Again, it would help if you'd define "sponsor" with a specific legal reference.)

And even then, Von der Leyen could have been talking about changing the TFEU treaty itself, which is ambitious but certainly not impossible. But again, I see no reason why this can't be done in a regular fashion, just like the already extant SE Regulation.


And if the authors of the proposal had thought a bit more about their idea, they would have realized that the situation is exactly the same in the USA:

You have to select a state to incorporate in. You can't incorporate "federally". All states have different laws and regulations relating to business. Just like in Europe.

So they're chasing a false idea.


Maybe the task is to make the changes to get this to work legally speaking.


this proposal exists under the umbrella of the 28th regime[0] idea, as per their FAQ.

Which.. would be a good idea, but I am not holding my breath for it to happen in the next 10 years.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28th_regime


They've already said it'll be the 28th state


If the EU is saying "we'll make it work", replying "can't work because that's how the EU is designed" doesn't seem like an intelligent response.


Looking at it on vibes is not intelligent either.

The design of the EU is based on a foundation where other than the EU institutions themselves the founding legal entity must sit within a member state. EU law that is one each country must replicate, there is no such way to have EU wide law without each and every member state replicating it entirely. An entity that is supranational cannot exist outside this construct & is a red line of the design of the EU itself.

This is one of the reasons the EU cannot easily raise debt for itself without going through a sponsoring member state.


> The design of the EU is based on a foundation where other than the EU institutions themselves the founding legal entity must sit within a member state.

You don't get it.

You're arguing it's not possible on the basis of the law. I'm saying the people you make the law are saying they'll make it happen. Get it?


The issue is to try and focus on making a good cloud that startups etc would like to use. That should be the goal. If the goal is not being strategically dependent then it'll never work.


Ask your customers


Honestly, I did

And few of my early users replied.

They were like " We got almost everything for free from building application to edit and then download or publish everything for free" Why would we upgrade to a paid plan.


> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are

That's actually changed a while ago.


Chatgpt is a proprietary eponym[1], like kleenex, or Google for search. That's a relatively strong attractor based on their first mover status. I nevertheless use tissues, and search engines like brave search, sometimes duckduckgo, and claude or openrouter for my LLM models.

I think there are too many good alternatives for Chatgpt to turn the screws too hard on their users, but we'll see where it settles out. As usual, the most vulnerable will be squeezed the hardest (the ignorant and tech feeble). Hopefully competition and some oversight will keep the wolves at bay.

The finance people were chatting about the OpenAI's ad play a while back, glad to see it finally dawning on this crowd.

1. Not all jurisdictions have granted OpenAI the Chatgpt trademark.


I think I hear as many people calling it ChatGBT or ChatGTP as ChatGPT.


"Oh no it's GPT, a Generative Pretrained Transformer shaped into chat responses."


None of which, when searched, will lead the user to Claude, Qwen, et al.

Just OpenAI and ChatGPT.

So what’s your point?


Chachapita


Weirdly, I think Perplexity is getting a lot of mainstream name recognition because of podcasts. All the big slop pods like Rogan, Theo Von, etc are sponsored by Perplexity and the hosts constantly name check it by asking to “look stuff up on Perplexity”. Honestly pretty smart marketing all things considered.


Perplexity sponsors Lewis Hamilton, with a prime spot on his helmet so every on board shot has their logo.

https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/blog/perplexity-x-lewis-hamilt...

Here it is in action

https://youtube.com/shorts/1SqQV5iD__s


How can we even measure whether this has any effect on people? This seems like a lousy way to get the word out.


FTX was his sponsor at Mercedes, and Crowdstrike still is worth them.

Oracle is the biggest logo on the it the Red Bull.

They all must think it is worth it. In guesses they get paddock passes and hospitality to schmooze in Qatar.


Other F1 sponsors - Gemini on McLaren along with FxPro and Android, Kick on Sauber, Crypto.com on trackside hoardings, Atlassian on the Williams, 1Password on the RedBull


Does Rogan even know what Perplexity is or is he just reading ad copy? Has it come up in a podcast? I think he only has ever mentioned Grok and ChatGPT. Dont even think Claude has ever come up. He has done that crap before, just reading an ad without any usage of the product. They all do it.


Claude? I’d be extremely surprised.

Gemini? As gemini.google.com or as the thoroughly mediocre “AI summaries” on top of Google Search results?


Claude has been aggressively advertising on Facebook, Instagram, and Reddit, and the ads have been much more general use than just the code benefits. They’re definitely no ChatGPT, but they’re not an unknown player.


You're only seeing those ads because the ad algorithm knows you. My family aren't getting Claude ads. They wouldn't know the first thing about it even if it were explained to them.


I saw a Claude ad before watching Wicked for Good in the theater. I was surprised.


From the advertisements I’ve seen, only in the bay area, I honestly wouldn’t know Claude “competed” with ChatGPT unless I knew of it beforehand.

For me that’s mostly because every AI startup is promising the moon on their billboards, lol.


Yeah my father who codes occasionally asked me what the best AI for coding was and he had never even heard of claude so I would be very surprised if your average person knows it.


They absolutely do not. It took getting out of tech a few years to realize how hilariously out of touch we can be in this industry


Yeah, Google should have got gemini.com and gemini.ai before settling on that name, just like Claude. Instead they go to the same crypto service. It would've cleared up some confusion.


Disagree.

Wait - are you in California?


Can't AI do this for free anyway?


AI can certainly do the analytics for free once you have the data. The challenge is getting reliable, clean data, because government statistics agencies and central banks often don’t release datasets in standardised formats. Once you have trustworthy data, AI can easily generate insights on top of it. That's why I created FXMacroData.


Probably thats the goal, so there is a way to charge a fee. Do you not know Ryanair


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