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they don't expect steam machine to sell so they don't care..


They did when it was announced. And it still will, just not as much as they would have wanted to.


Whilst the price is disappointing ; it is also sold-out.


don't believe those marketing research


This is Framework level pricing.

Provides some of the worst value for money on the market ($1,049 with no controller, additional $70 for controller): worse than the PS5 ($599), Xbox Series X ($599), Switch 2 ($449), and DIY PCs.


Framework provides adequate price to value, what are you saying?

This doesn't have the best value


The MacBook neo is cheaper, faster, and higher quality in every way.


The iPad Mini is cheaper than the Macbook Neo, is more efficient, and has more apps.

Comparing the Machine to the Framework to the Mac is an Apples-to-Grapes-to-Oranges comparison.


Both of them are laptops. The average person buying a laptop basically just needs a web browser and some office tools that will run on either. But they will run better on the macbook neo for less money. It's a no brainer choice right now unfortunately.


Well, let's defer to the market share statistics, as usual. We hear this line every few years, but the market knows what it wants. iPads are almost a larger market than Macbooks, at this point.


Good luck playing PC games on PS5 or Xbox Series X.


So it's reasonable to ask $300 extra dollar (on top of $500) for using the free linux over macOS? That must be a joke.


We had WiiMac a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47691730 Are we seeing a resurgence of interest in porting stuff to old consoles? AI is helping with these hobbies I guess.


We definitely are. Somebody is trying to build a PS2 exporter for Unity. Someone else ported Portal to the N64 before Nintendo slapped em with a C&D. There's been a lot of work on Dreamcast development, too


MIT is a rich private school. Plz stop relying on government money.


Same problem here. I have Wave Keys for Mac, and my girlfriend has the Wave Keys for Windows with reversed Fn and Ctrl. It’s a headache when I go to her place. I use Karabiner, but it doesn’t really swap them, and Logi Options+ doesn’t either obviously.


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