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I understand the shortcomings of pass keys but I feel the tone of the article is a bit tin foil hat.

Especially this line: "I believe this was done in order to deliberately confuse users and encourage them not to look too closely at the fine text." Don't attribute to malevolence what you can attribute to incompetence

A lot of people have said there are pros and cons to any authentication method. Pass keys have drawbacks but they also for a lot of advantages.


I don't think a good idea to limit yourself to solutions only from your geographical area, but it's also a very ingrained " not from my tribe" human sentiment. It's hard to fight it.

Still in it's infancy but Moose OS is fully EU built github.com/onmoose/os

Yeah, I think we need to better define this term. To an extent people, call self-hosting using your own server in your own home. But I think using a VPS from hosting provider should also be an acceptable term. That offers a lot of convenience that will keep self-hosting out of reach of a lot of people.

“Using a VPS from a hosting provider”

What reality are we in?! The name of the thing literally contradicts the term. You are using a HOSTING PROVIDER. Somebody other than yourself is providing the hosting!


I think the most important part of self-hosting is YOU hosting the software you use. The tool/medium you are using is less important. If it's your own laptop, or a mini PC, or someone elses PC is less important. They are different.

If I use my old laptop to host stuff is fine. What if I live in an apartment building and a good neighbor has a big server and let's other poeple use it and host stuff on it. I have my own vm, etc. Does that count as self-hosting? I would say yes. What if I rent bare metal from a provider?

In my view self-hosting doesn't end at the boundary of my apartment.

As I said previously, everything comes down to trust. If I don't want to run my stack on someone else's computer because I don't know if they will be a good s steward of my data that's valid, and I should own my own hardware.


I don't think that's what the post mentioned. It says some new features will go with the new license, which is closed. Sad but not the same thing

Vaultwarden, self-hosting that is now 1-click deploy

That's a great article, but I think the author is over emphasizing a bit on the fact that the guy has PE connections. I also think that's most likely that will go in that direction, but IDK if that's the reason for it.

I think we need to be a bit more aware of our expectations from free products. By the end of the day on the free tier, and as long as you're not paying, you are a cost to the company. I think most of these problems go away if we don't rely or expect that much from free products. If we pay a little bit, even if it's just for the compute when self-hosting, it creates much healthier relationship.

The post also mentions GitHub. Let's be honest, they created a lot of value with the free tier, but we also can't have high expectations for a service we're not paying


I don't think before is the right way to describe this. We are just more predisposed to react to that type of content. And if you see it more in your feeds then you have more interactions with it. I think in this case the blame is more on the people creating the content and the people putting in in front of us. It is pretty much hijacking our way of thinking

I keep moose os instance on a vps, for immich, cap (recordings), cal for meetings and one app for notes. Small productivity apps that I just like to have access to everywhere.

Great work and props for focusing on keeping everything local and private

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