To give you the benefit of doubt - you're not paying attention. The 100$ claude account is profitable inference wise, and performs better than 80% of engineers with upto 5YOE. Architects I speak with want to delegate to this 100$ agent rather than 10000$ engineer.
It is absolutely more cost efficient. Junior engineers are done for.
I have first hand and second hand seen more failure from this line of reasoning _as of today_, in the French/European tech sector, than successes. Not even talking about those executives that expect to use Gen AI to "help" in their process and financial reporting - at least the flag is bright red.
I've also met enough architects (or so called) in consulting, service companies as well as startups, from both a founder and a tech lead point of view, in the past 25 years not to entrust them too much with their hunches, long-term wise.
Especially because, from a sustainability point of view, saying "junior engineers are done for" is like saying "kids are done for": not that wise. Unless what you account/bet for is the drastic reduction/disappearance of humains (and then, a lot starts to make more sense).
Sending you empathy. I think we have to get used to the lower pay expectation. This is the biggest negative, which does not make up for all of the AI's upsides.
I've dropped my pay requirement into the basement. 60-70% pay decrease and it isn't enough. At some point I'm going to wonder if I'm ever going to work again.
That is more a sign of our messed up society. Yes, techies earn middle class salaries that are hard for everyone else to earn, but the issue was everyone else falling behind, not techies racing ahead (our salaries are extravagant becuase…we can buy a house like our very normal salary parents could).
I agree it definitely distorts the market because what else are kids to do?
Your getting unnecessarily down voted by devs who want to feel morally superior, but don't have any concrete answer to the conundrum you've posed.
It's about money, and the actual solution would be to lower pay at senior level and give it to juniors, with some lock in agreed by the junior in exchange for this grace.
They're getting downvoted because they are a miserable misanthrope, and it is our responsible as people in a society to punish obviously antisocial behavior.
I can't say, yet! Hasn't struck. They'd like users, aren't forcing the issue. Very reasonable/measured so far. Should expectations appear [and I were to play along], I maintain they would be sorely disappointed. Simply don't believe we're limited by content generation/consumption.
All beside the point, anyway. I'll worry about meeting agreeable expectations in the next place... where I can renegotiate my side of the terms, too. The work doesn't really call for it, I'm already more productive than my enabled peers. Not pressed, options exist (both internal and external). Competitors more to my liking surely exist. I'm entirely fine failing to meet demands that I don't believe can/should be met. Call me fortunate [and perhaps naive] :)
My 'agents' were called 'pipelines' 20 years ago, they serve us well. The... 'real world' logistics need to be considerably shortened before an agent [or more pipelines] might have any meaningful impact. We have all the code/docs/whatever we might need, and a lot of built-in downtime, so I suspect it's a wash. Moving parts or people to datacenters, for instance.
All that's not to say an LLM can't be useful. They could spare us some shoveling, so to speak. Less work, not necessarily further or faster. Easier. There's not a lot of juice to squeeze and I'm not sure one should be willing [without proper consideration/compensation].
Ive been wondering as well and it seems acceptance is the only way. The evidence keeps piling with every successful larger and larger GitHub project we see
I'm taking the bait whatever. All those projects are just more fucking AI tools. It's all Claude seems to be good for - writing agents, skills, harnesses. Just a big fat ouroboros.
(Going down the /trending page - 13 of the 14 are some flavor of context manager or agent or smth)
Let me know when someone uses Gas Town or openclaw to write something that isn't "the next Gas Town or openclaw" and then we can talk
I think this framing is wrong. we have to learn to accept that it's not stealing. It's a new world where it's fair use and we don't know how to deal with it.
If we accept this then we can do something about it. Without it no one will heed us.
I understand your point, but at some point someone needs to think about morality.
If you or I copied and reimplemented nextjs in a better way, it doesn't feel as wrong. But when a large company does that and then brag about it, it's in poor taste.
Especially pointing out one developer and 1000 usd of tokens replacing the efforts of hundreds of talented developers. There's people on the other side of the screen.
This matters less and less in the new world. that fact that a fully compatible 10x faster clone came up, and is continuously working and adapting/improving, tells you that this is hugely valuable. It has users and it's thriving.
Caring about taste in coding is past now. It's sad :( but also something to accept.
Yeah, I tried to use this clone of pi for a while and its very, very broken.
First of all it wouldn't build, I have to mess around with git sub-modules to get it building.
Then trying to use it. First of all the scrolling behavior is broken. You cannot scroll properly when there are lots of tool outputs, the window freezes. I also ended up with lots of weird UI bugs when trying to use slash commands. Sometimes they stop the window scrolling, sometimes the slash commands don't even show at all.
The general text output is flaky, how it shows results of tools, the formatting, the colors, whether it auto-scrolls or gets stuck is all very weird and broken.
You can easily force it into a broken state by just running lots of tool calls, then the UI just freezes up.
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