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I think this tech is still only for faces mostly. Aren't any cgi'd actor have someone else playing the role and their face edited?


Pretty easy to turn off the crypto stuff


Agreed. That's what I did.


Just use brave. I don't get why people are still trying to split off a new no-Google pro privacy chromium when there is a Very good option already. If people pushed to help brave even better we would be in a very good world


Brave shills cryptoshit at me, and Mozilla shills VPNs at me. Chrome is from an ad company. All three set off my sleaze alarm. What a sad state of affairs.


If Brave and Firefox are in the same league as Chrome for you your sleaze alarm is a very very bad guide to the modern world and seriously needs upgrading.


There are different levels of sleaze; I use firefox not chrome so don't try to put words into my mouth. While firefox may be a better choice than the other two, that's not saying much and Mozilla is very sleazy. If you don't see that, maybe you're acclimatized to it.


> While firefox may be a better choice than the other two, that's not saying much and Mozilla is very sleazy.

Rather than take such statements at face value, here's an example of one such instance that probably hurts its credibility: https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html

Also, they're not exactly a world apart from Google in some respects either, for example: https://killedbymozilla.com/ vs https://killedbygoogle.com/ (though i guess the amount of projects also illustrates the difference in their sizes)

However, that's not to say that we even have many viable alternatives to Firefox either: https://batsov.com/articles/2021/11/28/firefox-is-the-only-a...

Personally, i think that we're past the peak of Firefox and are currently in the midst of it fading away, which i expect will come to its conclusion in the following decade. Apart from that, we basically have just a bunch of browsers that are all similar to Chromium.

Essentially, Chrome will have probably lived long enough to kill IE by becoming the next IE.

Who knows where the web standards will go when there will only be Google backed browsers: https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/


How do you recommend Mozilla generates the millions in revenue necessary to develop a browser?


In Brave you can just turn the adds off. They're optional for if you want to earn their token.


You're still supporting the cryptocurrency ecosystem by using it though. It's not completely unreasonable to want to avoid doing that if you're opposed to cryptocurrencies in a wider context.


You can do that but they will eventually add a new ad.

One day they added a small widget to buy crypto in the new tab page. That was the breaking point for me. Like it happened with Firefox ads, I started to understand that Brave was working against me too.


Brave even in the discussion is atleast a big improvement in affairs. I couldn't name a single chromium privacy fork from 5 years ago or whenever they started.

It's also like a few clicks to turn off brave settings. It's less setup for brave than I go through on any new video game settings lol


Yes, high-quality free products tend to try to find ways to fund themselves that involve appeals to their users. It's beyond ludicrous to find this a "sad state of affairs".


If only there was some sort of "free high quality product" operating system that existed and proved this asinine defense of capitalism wrong


That'd be nice.

But all we got is Linux on the desktop...


Comedy is truth and pain.


>If only there was some sort of "free high quality product" operating system that existed and proved this asinine defense of capitalism wrong

The only reason Linux is popular on servers is because it has huge corporate sponsorship. Big players figured it it's more beneficial for their bottom line to commoditize the backend infrastructure and invest in OSS. Same is happening with developer tools.

It's not happening with anything consumer facing because everyone wants to take their angle at capitalising on the market. I can't think of quality user facing OSS that isn't aimed at developers or isn't trying to capitalise on the users somehow. Scratch that - blender is the only one I can think of - these guys are an amazing exception.


Keepass, Calibre, and 7-zip come to mind.


I won't argue these projects aren't quality because they certainly do the job, but they obviously lack polish of commercial software. Eg. despite looking into kepass I still chose to pay for 1password, just for the convenience.


VLC and OBS as well.


VLC is a good point I forgot about it. AFAIK OBS is sponsored by streaming platforms - I think it's another case of comoditizing the infrastructure.


Another free product is the online dictionary! You may want to look up the word "tend", and the lack of universality it implies.


I use Edge. It works on Windows, Linux and Android.


This is the worst option, Microsoft has consistently show they have the lowest ethical standards when it comes to products like Edge. They packed in a 3rd party payment tool in the browser ! It's like browser with crapware built in.

The only reason they aren't worse than Google is that they've been so shit at capturing the market share they don't get to make the same kind of moves, but Bing/Edge are not good alternatives for Google/Chrome.

I'm not one of those people that screams "M$ evil boooo", I actually use .NET day-to-day on a current project. But they have a really shit track record on Edge, it's the first browser I would avoid.


Your M$ evil boooo mentality is somewhat out of date.

Microsoft is making great strides in open source and Linux. A decade ago, you wouldn't have believed MS would publish SQL Server for Linux, release something as great as VS Code, create Windows Subsystem for Linux (and Android soon), acquire npm and github and make them better rather than destroying them, etc.



What 3rd party payment? I enjoy Edge because it blocks ads on Android, supports Chrome extensions and it is not controlled by Google.


There was a post here recently about it [1]. After shipping this with browser I would have 0 trust in this product.

I gave up on Edge because it didn't support uBlock origin on Android, I view bundled add blockers as just another way for the browser to block competition while still serving you their own "respectful" ads.

[1] https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-edge-buy-now-pay-la...


Edge is a quality product, but sadly a privacy disaster. Their new tab page is chatty as hell, they do run their own sync backend, but that backend is not fully end to end encrypted, only some data types are. Their session IDs are hardware-based, while many other browsers' are more transient (some don't persist across browser restarts, some do).


Vivaldi?


I've started using Vivaldi to break away from Chrome because the features just drew me in. It has a its quirks and flaws, but I really like it!


Ungoogled Chromium isn't new. It predates Brave by years. And Brave is funded by advertising, just like Google. (In theory, at least, if the company becomes self-sustaining.) I'm not sure why we needed to add cryptocurrency to that formula.


I only use Brave for Google properties like gMaps and Google Translate (which never work quite right in FF for me), but you don't have to turn on any of the crypto stuff if you don't want to, I keep it all disabled.


I don't have a problem with ads, I have a problem with tracking and profile building.


The problem is that Brave, Edge, Chromium, Vivaldi and everything else are not "split from Chrome". They are in sync in Chrome and just add their gimmics to every new Chrome change. There is zero point in using any of them if the target is to dethrone Google from their monopoly. The real "split from Chrome" browser is for example Safari - Safari and Chrome go back to the same Webkit but went different ways, with different decisions and different codebase. Brave is just a clone of Chrome with bells and whistles. Not very brave, just saying :)


You think Ungoogled Chromium is more split than Brave is? Or are you not replying to what the parent said?


Well, if I took all the brave features out of brave, it might then be reasonable to use.


Brave is done a lot of sleazy shit in the past, I clouding redirecting all Amazon links to their own Amazon referrals etc. They're hardly the knight in shining armour HN makes them out to be.


I'm curious why Brave crashes on CalyxOS (degoogled Android) any time I try to view my wallet balance.


Likely due to SafetyNet API not being supported on that platform. I think this is captured with https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/15344


Why the hell does a web browser implement SafetyNet?!? The one and only justifiable use for SafetyNet that I've seen is Snapchat - everything else has been a net negative...


If a user has Brave Rewards and ads enabled and gets an ad grant at the end of the month, SafetyNet is one measure used to help filter out fraudsters. The absence of it shouldn't cause a crash though


It's DRM that ensures only Google-approved platforms can run Android apps.


Thanks for the info! Very disappointing that Brave markets themselves as a degoogled browser, but depends on Google Play Services.


Brave is also based on the Chromium engine, and using any Chromium based browser would work against open web standards.


The BS filter is only obvious because we all agree that scientifically, watching a movie can't change your medical risk.

Try swapping the graph labels with: Took vitamin D pills, Excercised 30mins a week, Got the vaccine.

Most would agree that all three points probably have some level of health benefit. Suddenly the cause vs correlation can be much more difficult for the average person to determine.

Do all three reduce the death risk? Do some of them just also trend with more health conscious individuals? Are any of the three just completely bogus?


If you are using a random password generator, don't be doing 12 character lol. Do 20+


Yeah, true. I do 64 on default, except the service doesn't allow it, then I'll do the max allowed characters.


Be care with that! I've created accounts in the past with a 40+ random character password and everything went swimmingly. Until I tried to log in. Bzzzt! Couldn't get in.

Apparently the password had a character limit that wasn't mentioned when signing up and was silently truncated server-side. A bit of investigation showed the <input> had maxlength="20" which is only enforced when typing characters. When using Javascript to fill a form will just ignore this attribute. https://codepen.io/jspash/pen/XWerVzY


I've noticed my bank doing shenanigans in order to prevent password managers from working well. It appears to be JS scripts that uppercase or lowercase the input field after posting but before the browser saves it. So it perpetually looks like I'm updating my password when I'm not. It literally just got populated by the browser.


What is the deal with banks being actively hostile to password managers?

One bank specifically I have to deal with will:

- Not allow you to paste a username/password (ctr+c/ctrl+v, right click disabled)

- Lastpass autofill doesn't work

- If the page loses focus, both user/password inputs are cleared, you get to start all over.

There is also a very small subset of special characters that are allowed. If you do not reset your password as often as they'd like, you have to agree to waive any responsibility for any issues with your account before logging in.

SMS 2FA required, there's no other 2FA option.

After entering your 2FA code, the "proceed" and "cancel" buttons are the exact same shape and color and I've hit the wrong one multiple times, in which case there is also SMS 2FA cool down and you have to wait 15 mins to start all over again.

It's absolute insanity and every time I have to login its an adventure.


God damn that was an annoying bug. Server-side validation not matching client-side. Hopefully you managed to log in eventually.


Probably just doesn't conflict with each other often


100% does, especially with common names. They can see in the logs if the current holder was forcefully renamed, and presumably won’t touch those.


Reminds me of the xkcd: https://xkcd.com/810/


I think most people outside php have no idea what Laravel is, while anyone working in php is using Laravel so basically our viewpoint is Laravel = php. I don't know what it is about the normal personality that anyone using something you don't understand just be "doing it wrong"


Well php has strong typing built in now and they have been iterating on it every release. It's well ahead of native js. I can't imagine having any real complaints on using 8.x php for a back end these days.


I still dislike the constant $ and ->, today it just feels like extra typing. Otherwise I agree with you.


I'm with you. This is the only complaint I have about the language itself.


Trying to imagine php without $ and all I can think is... :o


Yeah I always wonder when you hear like "99% DNA match!!". So like you confirmed the DNA is probably from a human?


The tests generally choose markers that tend to differ between different people rather than the ones that tend to differ between people and animals.

But even then, people use percentages as if everyone's DNA was independent. Which it isn't. Blood relatives have similar DNA.

The one thing DNA is really good for is excluding people. If you have the rapist's DNA and you accurately test it against the suspect's DNA and it doesn't match, it's not them.


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