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The deeper problem is not discussed at all: is it possible in a one-state solution (non ethnostate, that is) for Jews to co-exist with Muslims when the latter becomes majority? Past drives the decisions for the present and the future.

The other issue heavily discussed is settlements in the West Bank. Settlements have caused, and continue to cause, problems: barriers, scanners, street closures (thereby preventing access for non-Jews), etc. Here, Israel downplays problems faced by locals. This is also a consequence of why it is not possible for Jews and Arabs to live together without barriers, scanners, closures.

Arafat scuttled the camp David deal in 2000. Of course, that deal was bad to Palestinians from the latter's perspective. Can they get a better deal than that by NOT 'lay down and die'?

From Clinton's biography: 'Finally, Arafat agreed to see Shimon Peres on the thirteenth after Peres had first met with Saeb Erekat. Nothing came of it. As a backstop, the Israelis tried to produce a letter with as much agreement on the parameter as possible, on the assumption that Barak would lose the election and at least both sides would be bound to a course that could lead to an agreement. Arafat wouldn’t even do that, because he didn’t want to be seen conceding anything. The parties continued their talks in Taba, Egypt. They got close, but did not succeed. Arafat never said no; he just couldn’t bring himself to say yes. Pride goeth before the fall.'


Banks don't need deposits to loan out, as loans create deposits.


It is good for the developing world, as producers/exporters subsidize countries with reserve currencies. That's why inflation in countries with reserve currencies is always a way lower than other counties. MMT claims that one can swap "printed money" with real products (such as cars, commodities, food, clothes). This kind of swapping is possible for the US, EU, UK (Mostly the Western world and Japan). Who wants to swap million barrels of oil to Zimbabwian dollars.


How is USD better than Zimbabwean dollars after the US federal reserve has quadrupled the amount of dollars in less than a year and then claimed only single digit inflation?

EDIT: I love how nobody replying is addressing my actual point


Responding to your edit:

Perhaps in a theoretical sense they aren’t different, they are fiat money which is basically a ledger of value (which governments manipulate).

But behind the dollar is the largest economy in the world and the largest army by a long shot, and a lot of motivation to keep the dollar as the “biggest” currency in the world.


It could be worse, it could be better. All that it matters with currencies is trust. Trust that they can be exchanged and trust that they keep their value. If I go shopping tomorrow and they tell me, you can keep your euros and your dollars, we want only bricks because currencies are crashing and bricks will be useful forever, I better have to get out and find some brick. The dollar is fine until people will trust it.


> How is USD better than Zimbabwean dollars

It’s backed by the most powerful nation in the world.


The Zimbabwean dollar had MONTHLY inflation rates reaching 79,000,000,000%.


Fun story: There was an advertising campaign for a Zimbabwean newspaper with posters and handouts printed entirely on Zimbabwean dollar bank notes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trillion_Dollar_Campaign


Nobody wants to get paid in Zimbabwean dollar.


> after the US federal reserve has quadrupled the amount of dollars in less than a year and then claimed only single digit inflation

Inflation is a measure of how much things cost, not of how much money exists.


If quadrupling a country's money does not cause runaway inflation, then there is something deeply wrong going on


Your failure to understand something doesn't make it wrong


Your reply contributes nothing at all


It's not like he can understand it for you.


Replying to edit: technically there’s no difference and this technicality doesn’t matter one bit. You’re being told the answer and fail to see it.


Judges are always 'partisan', meaning that they are influenced by some or other ideology, policy choices, theories. As long as a certain segment of population finds their judgments reasonable, that's fine. What is reasonable to one set of people, may not be reasonable to another set of people. The issue is not about truth or falsity, but one of reasonableness.


Loans create more money; in other words, according to your proposal, private banks shouldn't lend out more money than what they have (as customers' deposits).


> private banks shouldn't lend out more money than what they have (as customers' deposits)

The proposal is to eliminate fractional-reserve banking, which usually requires public accounts at the central bank [1][2], though in practice, there is no reason each state couldn’t open an account at the Fed, to keep the Fed out of the business of retail banking.

[1] https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/197911/1/1043494065....

[2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-swiss-vote-sovereign/swis...


I think that's what the commenter was getting at, but I think the fixation on banks as a way of "printing money" as a big problem is wildly overblown. "Money" is more of a fiction than that, and that's ok. Creating a successful company creates money. Crypto created money (while often pitched as ultimately being about the opposite).


> I think that's what the commenter was getting at, but I think the fixation on banks as a way of "printing money" as a big problem is wildly overblown.

Actually, most of this fixation is directed at grousing at the Fed for creating money, while ignoring the roles of retail banks issuing loans in creating money.

> Creating a successful company creates money.

No, it doesn't.

Creating a successful company creates value. Creating value often results in creating movement of money. The velocity of money in the economy is a loose proxy for the overall health of the economy.

> Crypto created money.

Yes, it did. One of the criticisms of it is that the amount of 'money' it created * the current value of that 'money' is significantly smaller than the amount of value it created.


There's a pretty common complaint about "traditional" finance and the banking system from the pro-crypto crowd that it lets "special" private parties "create money" in addition to central banks. The sort who will say things like "why do banks get to create money, why can't I??" That's the specific bit I thought was being hinted at.

> Creating a successful company creates value. Creating value often results in creating movement of money. The velocity of money in the economy is a loose proxy for the overall health of the economy.

It creates money in the same way a loan does. There are no new dollar bills printed, and yet people behave as if those dollars are in more places at once. People pull forward future (expected) company revenue to put a current value number on the company and then they exchange money for parts of that company, and adjust their spending habits based on that present value. Like how in a loan they pull forward a future value of the sum of their expected payments on the loan, in order to increase the velocity of those dollars that were loaned out vs them sitting in a mattress.

I suppose my quibble is that the concepts of "creating value" vs "creating money" distinction is largely meaningless in a world where we have so many mechanisms for exchanging money for the expectations of future money or value. Or even for the derivatives of those expectations!


Okay, that's a more interesting take on this. Let me try to unravel it.

Firstly, I don't think the 'shadow economy' of horse-trading on projected value/cashflows (Which is what investment is, if we reduce it to absurdity) is particularly relevant to the actual act of creating value. It can certainly accelerate/deccelerate it (Speculative investment, versus tightening investment), but it can also operate entirely disjointly from it (Most of the crypto ICO craze.)

> There are no new dollar bills printed, and yet people behave as if those dollars are in more places at once.

They are in more places! Not at once, but they change hands more frequently. You've then gone on to describe ownership of capital, but you've missed the most relevant part - consumer behaviour. Consumers don't exchange money for parts of the company, they don't look at the firm's financials, they exchange money for what the company produces! And the company behaves in the same way towards its suppliers.

Consider a closed village of subsistence farmers who don't buy anything, and make everything they consume with their own hands.

How much value does a peasant create? As much as he consumes.

Now, consider that same closed village, where half the people are growing all the food, and half the people are making all the household goods, and they trade with eachother.

How much value does a peasant create? About as much as in case #1.

What's different about these cases is that money changes hands in the latter. That money can be taxed. That money creates opportunities for employment (Which is very relevant in a modern economy, because most people make their living by working for someone else, as opposed to themselves.)

Is all this a confidence trick? To an extent, yes, but it's a confidence trick that a 'jobs' based society requires to keep functioning.

> I suppose my quibble is that the concepts of "creating value" vs "creating money" distinction is largely meaningless in a world where we have so many mechanisms for exchanging money for the expectations of future money or value.

I largely agree with you in the sphere of 'investment', but strongly disagree with you in the sphere of 'consumption'.


I think the biggest difference in how we're approaching this is around the "value creation" aspect. I was being intentionally short-term-focused, but I don't think I made that clear.

I agree completely about the valuation of circulation, I think I was just getting at it differently when talking about creating a sucessful company "creating money." Thinking about consumer behavior of the founder, investors, and any other employees of that company. They're gonna spend their "actual dollars" much more freely because they have that new asset of ownership of the company in their back pocket. Which increases circulation, taxable receipts, etc etc.

Value is ultimately necessary, yeah, I think that's what you're getting about re: the consumption sphere. Because I believe that most companies produce more real value than crypto, say, I do think real companies are a much better long-term way to go since sooner or later people will notice that gap and start selling their stakes in things not actually bringing in real revenue in exchange for real value with corresponding bad effects on consumption. A company and a crypto token can both give a bunch of early parties a bunch of "new spending power" overnight - but for long-term health, you need something that will continue to reward the next several generations of investors, vs just a greater fool scam.


> gonna spend their "actual dollars" much more freely because they have that new asset of ownership of the company in their back pocket

This is the wealth effect [1].

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/wealtheffect.asp


If money is a fiction, and if successful companies create money, then successful companies create fictional currency and assets. So crypto being successful and creating money is just as bad as a successful company like Facebook or Google. Because money is fictional and therefore useless. And it's okay to accumulate a useless asset like money? Strange. Is there another game we can play? One that exits from this bad capitalism? Because chasing after money, a fake and useless asset, is not good.


It's fiction in the sense of value set arbitrarily by people. In the end the value of most things is like that. People are ready to spend more money (meaning they value it higher) on houses bigger than they need, without getting any utility out of it for instance.


Money is debt. It is a relationship between people, not a thing made of matter. In that sense you could describe money as fictional, but certainly not useless.


How does a loan create money? A loan is just shifting funds from the lender to the borrower.


> How does a loan create money? A loan is just shifting funds from the lender to the borrower

Loans create deposits. (When you're approved for a loan, the bank makes the numbers in your account go up.) Banks don't lend out deposits.

See: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-...


The normal definition of money includes bank balances.

If you deposit $1000 of cash at a bank, and they loan it to someone else, you still have $1000 of money but now that other person also has $1000 of money.

But the abstract (and more accurate) version is even more interesting. Let's assume the person getting the loan deposits the money at the bank. Now we don't even need to touch cash. Giving out a loan is just adding 1000 to someone's account balance, in exchange for their contract to repay $1000+interest later.

A bank can do this over and over, and each time it creates $1000 of money. And when the loan is repaid, the money disappears.


Up to the fractional reserve limitations


Janet Yellen during Obama's second term didn't want to raise interest rates to protect Democrats. However, she wanted to raise interest rates during Trump. That's why Trump didn't renominate her. Why blame Powell here? Blame Janet Yellen, when she should have started raising rates under Obama.


with some caveats: if you keep $250k in your personal checking, another $250k in your personal savings, another $250K in a joint checking account, another $250K in a joint savings account, all accounts being with SVB, you will get $1M back. FDIC states "The standard insurance amount is $250,000 per depositor, per insured bank, for each account ownership category"


The third-party doctrine makes it legal to acquire data from third parties, without any consent or warrant.


What a great deal for the investors with connections to the local political 'mafia'. If profit is 70% after taking away expenses, that is about $140M. $140M * 7 = $980 (7 multiples). Where can one find such a profitable business for 7 multiples?


hahaha, in India, no one can become a politician without getting arrested. In fact, Indian police makes money by 'false' arrests in resolving civil disputes.


Thats very true, but this case is even next level. This arrest is made by Central Bureau of Investigation" (CBI).


Go to Andhra Pradesh, cronies of politicians are filing private cases against CBI officers with the aid of the AP police. This is with respect to the investigation of the murder of YS Vivekananda Reddy, brother of ex-CM YSR, and an uncle of the current CM of AP. It tells us how weak is CBI is. Every one knows that the current CM of AP is involved in killing his uncle.


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