Your landing page is ugly to be honest, half of links in the footer goes nowhere - this is unprofessional and lazy. There's no clickable demo, not even overview of components. Why do you lauch your product at current state? Why submit it to HN?
There are plenty of other web builders based on Tailwind or Bootstrap, often they have free tiers, and you're charging 249$, for what? For 300$ you can get Tailwindui* from creators of Tailwindcss or something like Shuffle.dev that has components for Tailwind/Bootstrap/Bulma.
Thanks for the positive response. It does need a good be of improvement but I really just needed to draw a line in the sand and get this launched to get feedback!!!
I'll give you more specific criticism. I'm not gonna sign up until I've read something that shows me the workflow and I've imagined that it could make my life much easier. Even if there's a free trial, I don't want to sign up for another thing without first confirming there's a chance I'll actually use it.
Launching as-is and iterating is totally fine IMO. Either they get some users now, much earlier than they would have if they waited, or nothing happens. At worst, it is neutral to not launching. The upside is much higher.
Yes... that is how I was thinking about it. The feedback is invaluable even if it is negative because that provides some clarity on exactly what to fix first!
I will be doing some serious iterating over the next few weeks to get more polish on it before doing a Product Hunt launch.
But HN is a great place to get early feedback in my opinion.
If one finds themself thinking this comment is not constructive, I would suggest that the 3 words at the start are considered. Even if one thinks that those last 4 should have been more carefully chosen, you can bet those first 3 are a useful suggestion.
Now you're being passive aggressive. That's not an improvement.
Be compassionate when giving criticism if you want to be heard. Besides, someone worked hard on this and they are sharing it with the world. Be empathic. Be kind. What have you created and shared recently?
> Your landing page is ugly to be honest, half of links in the footer goes nowhere - this is unprofessional and lazy. There's no clickable demo, not even overview of components. Why do you lauch your product at current state? Why submit it to HN?
We don't know what the age, experience, circumstances, constraints of the OP is. Why jump straight away into using strong words?
Yeah... there is always more to the story than what we see on the surface... and it was an aggressive comment.
Honestly I knew the missing links in the footer was lame but just wanted to get some feedback and was tired of delaying "talking to potential users"!!
Now I will have renewed energy to fix these things!
And frankly I am glad I did... it made it to the front page of Hacker News for over two hours so at least people are interested even if it needs more polish!
This a good question. Tailwind UI is really nice but it is for developers and requires a developer to benefit from the templates.
Shuffle.dev is also nice but again... it is for developers and doesn't support hosting and lots of other features I'd expect from a UI Builder in 2023.
WeBase is the first tool that I know of to bring the power of TailwindCSS to non-developers.
But you're right that they built a pretty ugly landing page. Especially the color palette and fonts selection. I don' think this should detract from the service offered, so I hope they fix this quick.
I think it's UI builder that has predefined set of components that user can customise - globally (by customising 'theme' - font family, primary colors etc) or per component (padding, margins, overwriting theme settings). From these components user creates pages/templates. User can create there own components if they want so that's good.
Bu OP doesn't show those predefined components even as images, ever more there's no information how many components there are. And predefined components are important feature of most web builders as they can save a lot of time. Also well designed components (good color scheme, typography, spacing) helps develovers without design skills.
lol... that cat is not coming back unless the owner signs a document guaranteeing that young man is coming back every again (not even to the same postal code!)
For me pure black text on pure white background looks good, but pure white text on pure black background it doesn't look good, my eyes are getting tired faster but that also depends on what font family/weight/size is used. For thin font weights (100-300) maximum contrast increases readablity, for regular/bold weights it's not neccessary to be pure white on pure black.
I recently started following author of this article on Twitter, he shares a lot of tips/tricks/insights about UI, visual design, etc. Highly recommended. And you will more articles like this on his website. He should add navigation to article pages, though.
It’s worse than that. I liked this article, but it was anonymous and undated. I looked around the site to find out who this was. Despite the author wanting you to know about him, what other people think about his skills, etc., he seems not to want you to know what his name is. I find this kind of thing bizarre. Does he want you to guess it from the URL? I finally saw his name in his page about “books I wrote”.
I think his design ideas are sound. But visual design without any notion of information design is like having a beautiful car with no wheels. Or something.
>he seems not to want you to know what his name is. I find this kind of thing bizarre. Does he want you to guess it from the URL?
I know this is hard to grasp in the world of LinkedIn that we live in, but would it shock you to learn that sometimes people just like to share things without it being directly marketed somehow? Not everything has to be a hustle.
> It’s worse than that. I liked this article, but it was anonymous and undated. I looked around the site to find out who this was. Despite the author seemingly wanting you to know about him, what other people think about his skills, etc., he seems not to want you to know what his name is. I find this kind of thing bizarre. Does he want you to guess it from the URL? I finally saw his name in his page about “books I wrote”.
I'm guessing that his website is work in progress or/and he's learning cms he's using.
>I think his design ideas are sound. But visual design without any notion of information design is like having a beautiful car with no wheels. Or something.
Sure, but you should learn from multiple sources as not everyone should teach about everything. It's up to you to connect that knowledge.
Agreed.
I do think it's better to publish good ideas on an imperfect site than not to share at all, but yeah, every article needs to have a date on it. Leaving it undated doesn't make it "evergreen", it just makes it annoyingly cut off from the implicit context of the point in time.
Agree about the date. Even saying the year is better than nothing.
In another of his articles he begins with "Stripe recently refreshed their website..." but we have no way of knowing what "recent" means. The article might be 10 years old. For someone focused on attention to detail, he has neglected the importance of date in context:
Sometimes it's okay not to mention date, such as a movie or book review. We know it was written some time after the book or movie was released - a date already known to reader.
There are plenty of other web builders based on Tailwind or Bootstrap, often they have free tiers, and you're charging 249$, for what? For 300$ you can get Tailwindui* from creators of Tailwindcss or something like Shuffle.dev that has components for Tailwind/Bootstrap/Bulma.
https://tailwindui.com/
https://shuffle.dev/