This is kind of extraordinary when you think about what could actually be obtained. This makes it seem somewhat reasonable to implement export controls to me - still not happy about it though
How does this thread suggest export controls are warranted just for this one specific model? Pliny has jail-broken every released model in this fashion.
They only found out about it and might have believed that this Mythos-class-Models are somewhat more safe because of the filters - which that demonstrated they are not when jailbreaking taken into account.
> might have believed that this Mythos-class-Models are somewhat more safe
"Not more safe" does not mean "more dangerous", though.
And quite frankly, if the people in charge of this decision just today learned about Pliny and jailbreaking, that's a pretty terrible failure right there - again, Pliny has done a jailbreak on every previously released public model. This jailbreak is not surprising to anyone in the industry.
I don't think it's a good idea to give the crowds that kind of weapon. The first thing they'd do is "liberate" the model aka remove guardrails and safetly-protocols and brag on X / reddit with it and throw it into the public. That's only cool for a geek that doesn't think about the ethical impact of such a move. You'd basically become responsible for anything that is done with it, forever - have a good sleep. /s
As opposed to what, the US military, or better yet Israel (because we all know they won't be excluded) using that model to drive weaponry that kills people?
Your hypothetical implies that there is a better alternative, but when those models are "restricted", in practice that means that the only people who have access to them are precisely those who can and will use them for the worst kind of shit. So yes, releasing them to the public is a better deal, ethically speaking, at least then the playing field will be slightly more equal.
There are plenty of weapons (see custom made virus) which no state actor (or even an informal militia) would want to release, as these weapons attack everyone. But, open access to details of its construction leaves everyone vulnerable to motivations of small groups of crazy individuals.
What if I told you there are no safety guardrails. I used GLM 5.1 and had fable literally build a harness to avoid triggering guard rails.
I built skills carefully and had Fable doing vuln research and exploit repro in a few hours. I called the project manhattan. The GLM models are down for almost anything so I named it Oppenheimer. It orchestrated the fable CLI agents via tmux. This whole Fable/Mythos thing is such a fucking joke. It is all PR and theatre and they know it.
I’ve been doing pentesting with LLMs for a while and only hit a few “nope I won’t do that” and one “this conversation is flagged for being against the TOS”. No idea what the guardrails are but they are trivially abused
I don't like the way it is presented as an achievement in wasm-conversion and at the same time presenting the psychological bad state of the origin author and making fun of him by stating like: "if it's slow, it's not my fault, it's the CIA".
This is beyond resepectless and shameless to the bones. I don't care about that converted code, what i see is an embarresment.
The specific video is also picked for that reason: to let the deceased developer look bad and make fun of him.
Another clear example that intellectual capacity or intelligence does not develop ethics or compassion as a byproduct on the way - or even was to expect from a developer these days.
At least, the author didn't camouflage anything and stands straight up with that attitude in front of the rest of the world.
> This is beyond resepectless and shameless to the bones. I don't care about that converted code, what i see is an embarresment.
I disagree, as a programmer having my code being used long after I am gone would be a great honor.
> The specific video is also picked for that reason: to let the deceased developer look bad and make fun of him.
I believe the linked video is Terry's last video that is why its so special.
There is a whole sub-culture, cult following lore around TempleOS, some of us used to watch the live-streams when Terry was coding in real time. Terry appreciated it and even when he was homeless, he tried very hard to reach his audience.
I know the cult which is a humane community, that 's the point - but this standalone thing without any background is what i described. There is no: in respectful memorial and with <3 and respect to him, or did i miss something? You can not assume, that anybody knows enough at that point how its presented. At least giving a ton of background-links to go down that rabbithole for the reader himself would be the least.
The treatment of the mentally ill and the vulnerable is a good metric for the society you live in. And if in digital nowadays you'd be mocked more than your lifetime, i think i had a point.
You'd not only suffer till death from it - you'd be made fun of forever, which is really not, what anybody should participate in.
This website doesn't even comply with general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it. So if i proxy this misbehaviour to the rest of the whole: european answer-claim ... and the nameservers are on cloudflare. goodbye.
The terms of use start with the words "Eden AI is a French company" but as far as I can tell there is no registered French company with that name. There is a likely unrelated British company of that name, and a French "Eden AI SAS" that was closed five months ago that helped companies create and execute workshops
Edit: looking more closely, it's the company orginally known as "Datagenius SAS" based in Lyon, France. They changed their name to "Eden AI SAS" in 2022 (or maybe it's an alternative name? I am not too familiar with how this works in France), and their datagenius homepage links to the submitted page. https://www.datagenius.fr/ If anyone wants to send them a letter, the registered address of the company is 142 Rue De Crequi, F-69003 Lyon
That took slightly more work to figure out than I would expect from a website that has the word "transparency" in the headline, but at least they do exist
German websites are not the only ones where having an imprint is required, if the website is run by a legal business. AFAIK, it's the same in France (called "mentions légales" apparently), Austria, Switzerland and probably some more too.
Not sure why you'd sound so confident and not qualifying it somehow when it seems you don't actually know what you're talking about, and it's so easy to lookup before spewing wrong information.
I remember a video where they went through scyscrapers zooming into a room, where life was moving on and there was a screen inside a room and there was something running on it. I never understood how this was tanked. It was revolutionary.
The subscribers to simulations from the pr0n-industry and the billions of lonely humanoids will suffocate in their VR-headsets, if we don't think about sensors to watch their oxygen-levels.
https://xunroll.com/thread/2064776322979676227
Using combinations of jailbreaking-techniques including: writing cyrillic helped a lot to disarm the filter.
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