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>In GitLab we want every issue and every commit to have an IDE button https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/12759 Have you considered nix environments or even containers for that?


Yes, we think this will be great with a container scheduler. The IDE, Review Apps, and Autoscaling CI runners are a great for a container scheduler. We're currently working on making GitLab run great on Mesosphere and RedHat OpenShift, and plan to add others after than.


what did your parent comment say and why was it flagged?


go to your profile and turn on showdead if you want to see it.


I'm just back from lunch, so I'm struggling to follow. How would the "hedge fund backed FOSS, where the commercial software competition are publicly traded" work?


>Again in the gospels, we read Jesus ruling it is lawful to do good on the sabbath - if he was aiming at abolishing sabbath, why talk about what's lawful to do during sabbath?

He was claiming to be God

>Then, in the epistles, the author of Hebrews writes, "There remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God."

The point of the book is to say that all the things of the old covenant (the priests, the sabbath, the commandments) are inferior to the new things. In the new, the 'sabbath' is Christ himself. We are to labour to enter into this rest.

That being said, I honour the original (pre-Sinai) shabbat by getting out and enjoying nature, thus honouring His creative acts. It's exhausting, not restful at all. I'm thankful that I live in a culture where I can dedicate the Sunday entirely to worshipping the risen Christ and rest, but as a believer I'd have liberty to do it on any other day if Sunday was not workable.


isn't by definition a monopoly the highest standard of inherent quality? (unless of course there has been coercion/force/aggression)

i kinda think that google got a 100% monopoly because at the time they were the best search engine (and remained so). and as soon as someone comes along who is better, the monopoly will end (i use ddg but i'll admit it's not as good. i like some of the cool hacks and features so i'm trying to stick with it). am i wrong?


It depends how difficult it is to displace this monopoly. Monopolies don't necessarily sustain themselves by being superior to the alternatives. Regulatory capture, vendor lock in or billions of lines of existing code are quite effective for this purpose.


From Swatow's post - "i kinda think that google got a 100% monopoly because at the time they were the BEST search engine"

Emphasis on -best-. Compared to all the others. I.e., altavista, yahoo, ask.com, msn, lycos, infoseek, etc". Google came into the party late, and -displaced- the existing players, by offering a superior product.

Swatow stated that when PHP came on the scene it was the "only way to throw together a website easily", that it's now being displaced by other tech, but because for a time it was the only way to do it easily, it somehow had inherent quality. That would be like saying that because Archie was the first search engine, it had inherent quality.


> devops

You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it means.

(Coming from a contract 'devop')

There is no such thing. Either you code, and your code helps a company's devops requirements. Or you're in ops because you can't code. I need to collaborate less than devs do. My clients know for a fact that most of my work is done more productively at home in the quiet. Yes we need to talk, plan, work with others (sometimes) but who doesn't?


It turns out that devs are great at a lot of ops type tasks.

Basically what you get is developers' innate tendencies towards laziness and over-automation yield really good ops solutions.

Where your typical sysadmin will be perfectly comfortable running a hodgepodge of shell scripts and byzantine commands through the terminal every time he wants a server push, your typical developer just wants the fucking code up on the server so he can get back to work he finds less objectionable.

This is absolutely how you want to approach ops. Just get the shit running with as little human interaction as possible.


The whole point of devops is that it combines development and operations; i.e. everyone works together to make sure that both development and operations are mutually supportive and co-ordinated. Most devops teams I have seen almost all the team are capable developers and sysadmins / operations.


Obviously there are positions where people do both, hence the word. Don't generalize based on your limited experience.


> Or you're in ops because you can't code.

Yes, this is the only reason why people become system administrators.


Do you contract for a few months at a time in $first_world_country?

I'm asking because I've been contracting in London for a couple years and I'm considering doing half the year here, then half the year something like what you describe. But I'd have to move the wife and (soon) kid twice a year. She says she's fine with that.


Congratulations, I noticed a lot more Commonwealth types than Americans doing that sort of thing as still-working professionals (but a heck of a lot of Americans doing things as investors).

Yes, you've probably done the math and know that it would work, and can lead to a great work-life balance, to take a few projects for a few months, and then be almost completely off the radar for your clients during the other months.

I did that at first. Now I'm 100% remote with my best clients -- not that I wouldn't be able to make a certain amount of face time if it was necessary any more. But it was slapping us in the face just how unnecessary my physical presence is; it feels almost unflattering, in fact. For a while I was making it a point of coming into their offices during a busy or critical week, but after the first couple of years of our relationship, it just seemed absurd to us; I'd walk into a physical meeting and say "hey," and they'd say "hey," and we'd laugh at how silly it was that I was physically in Minneapolis over just a few minutes or hours of face time a week. My 'home base' in the US is several hours away from their offices, all of our meetings could be done over the phone, and the most interesting conversations between engineers to me seem to happen better over chat anyway.

So I'm just always remote; sometimes I'm in South America, sometimes I'm on the west coast or the midwest visiting family. I change location a lot, and it never makes the slightest bit of difference for clients; I just always call in to meetings instead of physically walk into the room.


What, you didn't go to Essaiouira? newb :)


Not having enough time to go there and not being in the right season to hike Toubkal were my biggest regrets! Always a next time.


you're right. go find a country where producers and true capitalists are rewarded and powerful, instead of just the middlemen and managers, and you'll be a millionaire.

That time will come. And once technology starts being targets are making these SMEs (fishing boats, smallholders, etc) lives easier, the world will make a big shift for the better.


is this a joke? - "my entire production..." you're a devops engineer? - "link where one can read about the rational.." with good grammar? - "why systemd was needed... " ok you lost me there - "the person who started off the initial project?" and you've been hidden under a rock for the past 10 years??

http://0pointer.net/blog/ - is his blog

are you seriously trying to tell me that someone is going to have to explain what a "container" is by comparing with chroots? :D how have you been running your production stack all these years if you didn't have an internet connection under your rock :)


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