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well moderation is ubiquitous , but yeah -- personalization/targeting/social graph are essentially the things that people expect out of a social media platform.

I do personally think the karma thing is an aspect , because it's gamed everywhere to huge advantage -- but the altruistic view is that its a branch of moderation, an effort to democratize the removal of obviously bad actors while still facilitating dissenting or contrary speech.

I also know that's a naive view.


a hammer requires an operator, so it's rarely used wrong, and if something goes wrong the operator can intervene. sometimes a thumb will be struck, but usually that will result in a painful lesson that prevents future strikes.

the timed/automated hammer forging machine continues working regardless of whether or not an operator is at the helm. it will chop as many hands as you feed it.

we are at the point where a lot of value can be leveraged from AI by using it like a hand tool (a hammer), and in doing so one will avoid most of the chopped hands that a fully automatic factory has to offer.


What if the hammer has a problem where the handle breaks off randomly? Same thing happens with AI. Sometimes it breaks, randomly, and without any way of predicting it.

I think you have missed the analogy.

Another way to look at it is that the operator of the hammer has an immediate feedback loop and will not continue with a broken hammer. AI as it stands rarely has that feedback on the consequences of its decisions, and lacks the ability to react appropriately.


TDD and strong goals help..

..much like with human development.


TDD makes the code test-passable, but it is still rng. As for goals, you can't foresee every stupid thing it will generate. It will look at a state machine, and rather than using the existing event structure, write its own loops and conditions. This is very different compared to human devs. No goal will help. You just keep yanking its chain until it generates as described. It can't even put imports at the top as you described. It can't help making circular refs in c++ despite being specifically told to use a hierarchical structure. Left alone you will get truly unstructured random mess.

People keep making trivial apps with open source examples thinking they found god. Another dismissive comment and I swear.


I have never read a snide comment on this site that i've been more repulsed by.

I think because it's so specifically sharpened to stab at the software developer, my compatriot, one of the foremost primary populations here, rather than just an overall shitty human insult -- and timed to do so when the person opens up in an honest dialogue about what they're doing.

But good news: every large software house i've talked to in the past two years is touching AI. As tragic as that is for a multitude of good reasons surrounding the workforce/copyright/ip/human-laziness/loss-of-skill/etc, that means imric is going to be outside of software , by their own rules, in totality in just a few short years!

Happy days!


Man I've been waiting for this turn around for years now! This site would lauded whatever it is he wrote for the past 3 years. And it's always been so disheartening to see it accepted just because it was anti ai. Seeing the site get with the times is wonderful

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You only hurt yourself with that attitude. AI might take your job.

> You only hurt yourself with that attitude.

Funny, others seem more hurt by it.

> AI might take your job.

I'm not the one "grieving the loss of his career". :)


I get your angle, but have you ever read the discourse between humans regarding fiction?

I mean humans have made death threats towards other humans about whether or not Han shot first.

fiction-fan-discourse is a very low bar on the rankings of human social interaction. I'm not saying that makes it replacable and trivial, but let's not pretend that every fiction discussion with another honest to god human being is a Rembrandt.


You can say this about virtually any human interaction; I'm often amazed at the sort of nonsense some people think is vitally relevant. I would far prefer talking to other humans about fiction and risk the occasion nutcase (that I can walk away from and ignore) than retreat into "tell me plausible rehashes of rehashes of other peoples thoughts and don't upset me with all that icky human interaction stuff".

the concept of 'The average hypersonic..' makes me laugh.

in actuality the concept of equating real life dollars to defense budgets makes me laugh, too. It's not really a money thing, it's a production thing; and even if it were to be considered as a money thing the values involved in no way reflect a real life value.

It's like the NASA hammer story/packard commission. They're not going to say no to a 435 dollar hammer versus a zillion dollar project, but it's not actually a 435 dollar hammer.. .

Similarly a 41 million dollar weapon only costs that much until a wartime powers clause forfeits your factory to state production..


> Similarly a 41 million dollar weapon only costs that much until a wartime powers clause forfeits your factory to state production.

I seriously doubt such clauses still exist today. The entrenchment of the MIC in the US political structure is so deep and stretches for so long, that they have probably managed to avoid having such clauses by now. After all, that's their obligation to their shareholders.

Also, the more high-tech the weapon, the more complex and fragile are its supply chain logistcs. So, scaling up the production of high-tech weapons is much harder, especially in wartime.


It's a false comparison.

How many MIG-25s flew over the borders of the United States mainland during the cold war?

Yes the MIG-25 was a cheaper and more practical plane, but that wasn't the MO of the sr71.


I am not the one making those. If you read an article about how a Lamborghini Aventador was faster than a Nissan GT-R, you would go 'well, duh, it costs 20x as much'.

A school bus costs 4-5x more than. GT-R, and I wouldn’t expect it to be faster.

you're correct. a '12v ICE' alternator generates up to 14.8-15.2v. Most automotive stuff can operate between 9ish-16ish-v , of course totally depending on the product.

of course this is just a modern interpretation. older stuff runs at 6v and some weirdo offbeat cars have a 24v/48v rail sitting around somewhere. Cop cars often had alternators that put out weird voltage ranges for certain equipment, or dual 12v for high amperage output.


Even just a "12v" automotive battery itself is mostly dead if if actually reads 12.0V. Fully charged is around 12.6 or 12.7. If a car had an electrical system that actually ran at 12 volts, the battery would always be dead.

"12v" in reference to anything automotive is very much a nominal reference.


Whilst cranking, an ICE car will drop to around 6 volts (then maximum power is extracted according to thevenim's theorem).

That means all computers etc will work at 6v.


> Whilst cranking, an ICE car will drop to around 6 volts (then maximum power is extracted according to thevenim's theorem).

> That means all computers etc will work at 6v.

Not necessarily all of them. Plenty of stuff will drop out while cranking; hopefully not the computers that run the fuel injection and ignition, though.


Interesting. I now know why my windshield wipers quit for a sec when my vw auto stop/start kicks back on.

Not a car engineer, but those motors can be pretty high A, so this could also just be a feature that helps the starter get as much power as it can while cranking.

Ignition switches were turning off the wipers and other such extras in the 1980s. Probably longer but I'm not old enough to remember

Some accessories are disconnected while cranking so the battery can supply as much current as possible to the starter.

The specs say no less than 6volts. In the real world when the temperature drops down to -70F or colder and batteries get old the voltage goes well below that: deal with it.

AGI is a buzzword too, it's just differently applied.

In this case it's a word that means the thing we're all developing towards apparently, but that no one actually knows how to get or even how to measure whether or not we've already gotten it , and no one really knows what will happen when it's achieeved, if it hasn't already been.

It's a bit like an even wackier more-corporate version of The Quest for the Holy Grail.

And the honest one true test for "is it a buzzword?" : Did a corporate group brand a flagship with it?

"RISC architecture is going to change everything!"


>Rich people were always going to do what they wanted anyway, "democratizing" that doesn't make the situation better.

total disagree.

if you put vid gen in the hands of regular people then regular people get super-powered in that they begin to recognize the frame pacing, frame counts, and typical lengths and features of an AI video.

Do you know how many people have cited AI videos in this war? We'd all be better off if all of us were betting at spotting fakes rather than allowing the fakes to illicit hardcore emotional responses from every peon on the street.


I think you're overestimating the average person. We can give people direct, scientifically-backed evidence of something, and there will still be significant groups of people fervently denying it.

The resources (money, energy, opportunity cost of engineering time) put into AI video generation are better spent elsewhere. Not pouring resources into it would hopefully stunt its progress, making AI generated propaganda lower quality and easier to spot.


Even if that were true, the little quirks of private large scale video models would be different than the public cheap ones. If anything, it would just give the public a false sense of being able to detect AI videos and overlook the more subtle flaws of privately made ones.

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