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Words have a well-defined meaning. Fascism, as established by Benito Mussolini, has nothing to do with oligarchy or plutarchy.

No idea why people downvote you when you’re right.

Only American-style political discourse is accepted on the Internet, where either you're with us or you're against us.

It sure as shit has to do with corporatism!

Fascism, as established by Mussolini is very deeply related to plutarchy.

Please produce your evidence that Mussolini's ascent or style of government was a "society ruled or controlled by people of great wealth", as defined by Wikipedia.

Fascist political philosophy is about racial purity, militarism, autarky, and suppression of dissent through political violence. In fact, one of their methods of enacting such worldview was by appropriating the wealth of rich people to advance their own purposes.

Please educate yourself, it's free: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism


If you read your link, you will discover it's not focused at Mussolini's fascism at all, but still talks about the merge of the government and corporations... Because it's a very important feature of that regime.

Maybe try it next time.


> the merge of the government and corporations

This is not plutarchy, the direction of control is going the other way.


I'm referring to how both Lütke and DHH, a Shopify board member, have fascist politics.

The word does have meaning. But underlying that meaning is a philosophy that there is an in group that should have power and many out groups from which power should be stripped. There is a long history of industrial leaders supporting fascist ideology.


Shopify's former COO Kaz Nejatian and his wife Candice Malcolm are behind True North and Juno News, sketchy far right media outlets.

Yeah, but please google first on what Mussolini preached. State-owned corporazioni are nothing like privately operated businesses of today. Don’t hang on the word. The correct word you are looking for is plutocrat, indeed.

The word I wanted to reach for was Nazi but I toned it down

Whatever you’re reaching for, you’re reaching for a wrong thing. Go back to school, crème de la crème of the society my ass.

You should try and read more history books than Twitter posts. The blossoming US plutarchy, again, has nothing to do with the political philosophy of Nazism.

But I figure your slogan would work very well on social media.


You should understand language before debating vocabulary. I am quite well read on political philosophy and history, and I will continue to call out fascists when I see people talking like fascists.

Rhetorically, what you're doing is called the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. I personally don't like calling out things like this when I see them because it's not a logical fallacy as much as bad rhetoric, but in this case I think it's warranted.


> I am quite well read on political philosophy and history,

consider reading beyond '39-'45. You might learn a thing or two


How can you call people fascists when you clearly do not understand what the word means.

The first part of your comment is correct, the second part is both wrong and unnecessary glazing of Gates.

There's plenty sociopaths that give to charity, because it's a socially accepted display of wealth, and because it is quite convenient for tax purposes.



The Forth (and Lisp) posts will continue until the entire HN population has been converted.

I am glad that this forum that has mostly been colonized by the ‘normies’ still manages to keep these two languages in the conversation, capturing curious passersby with their exotic allure. In every post you see new prey with the comments like ‘I keep reading about Lisp and I still don’t get why it’s popular. All I see is parentheses. Can anybody explain?’

I fear the day HN closes is the day those languages will die.


Nah, we will keep hoping around.

USENET, Slashdot, Reddit, HN, Lambda the ultimate,....

There will surely be a spot left for the refugees.

The biggest issue is when natural language programming would make all these paradigms irrelevant, a curiosity for computing history museums.


> And getting close to the upper atmosphere of Giant's Deep for the first time, staring, thinking about the atmospheres of real-world gas giants, knowing that I need to take the plunge.

I recommend the game Exo One then.

It's a surreal game of flying a spaceship around in the atmosphere of a gas giant. While beautiful to look at, I know enough that flying around in a gas giant is so terrifying a prospect I never managed to complete the demo of the game. "Oh, how do you falling through pitch black clouds with winds in the 3000+ km/h where it's raining literal diamonds until you reach a lake of supercritical fluid at extreme pressures?" You don't even have to go very far, there's 4 of these in our solar system alone.


> Melanoheliophobia, which is fear of black holes

Thank you for mentioning this. I am an avid space nerd. One day I decided to try Space Engine, and one of the first thing I did was get warped to a black hole. Seeing a literal hole in space time appear in front of my screen was one of the most terrifying things I've experienced. I Alt-F4'd, and never opened that application again.

It's like every single atom, nay, every single subatomic carrier of information in my body was telling me to stay the hell away from that.


I guess I'm not be reading the same type of science fiction.

You contact NASA because you found a meteorite with clear signs of alien life, a black helicopter will pick you up, you get put in a dark cell, interrogated, and then told to forget all about it or G-Men will disappear your family. You try to sell the news to mass media, but rumours start to spread about you. Your life work get discredited, you lose your job and family, end up wandering the streets in an alcohol daze muttering about aliens.

I guess it depends if you've drank the kool aid about the US government being the good guys, or not.


You know what is scariest? That on democrat Reddit posts about this, people were overwhelmingly agreeing that Obama should run for his third term as well, and they’d be glad to vote for him. Their rationale is that you have to fight fire with fire and can’t afford to follow the rules if the other party is playing dirty.

When citizens of both parties believe that “your guy” is allowed to break the laws to stay in power against the evil opposition, your country is not a democracy any more and there is no coming back from it.


I mean, if ol’ minihands is permitted to run for a third term, then the US really is teetering on the edge of not being a democracy anymore, and it would be entirely appropriate for the other side to attempt to use the new rules (presumably declared by fiat) to try to elect a popular candidate.

I think they’re suggesting that expressing this logic justifies his bid for third term

… I mean, I think that’s completely nonsensical. “The other side says that if I change the rules, they might take advantage of that change” is not really a gotcha.


Insane equivalency

You are not.

> one of the biggest terrorist group in the world

Clearly the biggest tell that you are anything but Iranian. You might dislike the regime but no one calls their own government a “terrorist group”, a term reserved for foreign agents.

Stop astroturfing behind a throwaway, you coward.


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